Genealogy Chat

Hi Basman
yes i did have alook but dont think it was him as he was called Herbert only got bertie as child,did have alook at his enlistment papers he was apprentice for couple year for firm called j.Rotherham of London,and Helen was living 23 acton st kings cross in 1904

also have you checked the Helen Morgans? theyre are a couple on there right age, fair enough not in london, but being divorced she may well have moved away-------gone to be a housekeeper perhaps. I've had a couple of widows do that-------took some finding !

basman

Hi Dutch,
there is a Bertie Morgan 15yrs. in West ham om the 1911 census, have you checked it out ?

15 years old he would be working by then, so could well be a lodger near his job------or staying with other family.

basman

could be never thought of that he would have 15yrs old at the time,but it still leaves his mum i cant find her at all,so mybe the same if were ever she was living she not been at home,thank you
Dutch

your father could have been absent from census simply because he was not home at the time----------night worker perhaps?

basman

Helen,yes thats them but in 1904 they were divorced as i have the papers and i know in 1916 bertie my dad went to Australia

1901 England Census
about Bertie Morgan
Name: Bertie Morgan
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Malcolm
Mother's Name: Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnet, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Highbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 310
Household Members:
Name Age
Malcolm Morgan 29
Helen Morgan 33
Kenneth Morgan 7
Bertie Morgan 4
Maud D Este 20

Is this them in 1901?

Hi Krissie
this was taken from Harringay London,but my Dads grandfather came from Midlothian Scotland,so the time of the 1911 census there were living at 15.Warham road harringay London,which was the grandparents house
Dutch

Hi Dutch,
The surname Morgan sounds Welsh to me, if the family was living in Wales it won't be on the 19111 census.
They haven't put the Welsh counties on yet.
Krissie

Hi Margaret
what i mean,t to say my dad is missing from the 1911 census with his family,so thought he might have gone to stay with his mum.but cant find her on 1911 census she died in 1932
Andrew bennett morgan
Louisa Morgan.
Malcolm b morgan .son
Kenneth malcolm morgan ,grandson
Helen may morgan,grandaughter
Winnifred morgan grandaughter
my dad was Herbert morgan born 1896
and my g,mother was Helen morgan
i thought my Dad might have been with his mother,have to go the hospital this morning but will reply when im back .thank you
Dutch
Dutch

Hi Dutch

Not clear what you mean. Your grandma and grandad divorced, so that is why grandma isn't there? But you expected dad and his mum to be there?

Is that right?

Give us some names and dates, we will have a look.

Margaret

Hi Jim
know i dont think so as on her death cert it says widow of malcolm bonner morgan which was my g,father he died in 1918,and she died in 1932

Could she have remarried?

Jim

have just download my dads family from 1911,but my dad is,nt there i know why his mum isnt there as they divorced in 1904 have tried to find her even though i have her address but nothing comes up,even tried putting birth for achild she was having in 1904 but same nothing,dont know anything about the baby that was due,any help in pointing me in right direction please .thank you
Dutch