Genealogy Chat

omg!...what a result!...usually i would just order online from gro for certs but they take ages , so i have just phoned pontypool reg office and a fantastic lady took the details of james r thomas and i asked her to check that the father was infact Joseph before i ordered , she just phoned me back and says its the correct birth cert so i ordered it...i was very cheeky and asked her if she could tell me the mothers name and she did! Its Ada so christine got it correct!...no wonder we couldnt find james in the census when they noted him down as redvern! many thanks to you both!
Alison

yeh i suppose....i will have to send for the birth cert and find the mothers name then i can match it all up...many thx to you both for your help...xxx

Ok, thanks - oh, that didn't help much - I was checking a James/Joseph family in England but the father's occ was tailor so not the right one.

If you were to get the birth cert that would give an added search criteria - his mother's name.

Regards - Athena


ps - just seen Christine's post and I think that it's quite likely to be the right family - lots of children used middle names - confirmation of this would be if you got his birth cert to prove mother's name.

Ok - but I wouldn't rule it out!

Many people are listed in census by the name the family called them everyday - not necessarily their birth name

Christine

yeh i noticed that one but the sons name is James Redvers Thomas not Redven

family are living at 45 Stanley OR Starley Road

Joseph is a coal miner though!
Just noticed other post - could be hewer
Christine

Name: Redven Thomas
Age in 1901: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Ada
Gender: Male
Where born: Garn, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Abersychan
Ecclesiastical parish: Abersychan St Thomas
Town: Garndiffaith
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontypool
Sub registration district: Pontypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 298
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Thomas 29
Bertie Thomas 4
Gertrude Thomas 7
Joseph Thomas 30
Joseph Thomas 8
Redven Thomas 1
Sarah Thomas 10

this one has father joseph???

Christine

he was a coal hewer like his dad...

One last question - what is the occupation of Joseph Thomas on the marriage cert?

no not a clue, thx for looking, i thought i was going wrong somewhere....xx

Sorry, couldn't find him on the census. Any idea of his mother's name?

Hi Athena ,
I have found the 2 births and was as surprised , i just cant find the welsh one in the census....xx

Well on the birth indexes there are, amazingly (for such an unusual name) two entries:

James Redvers Thomas 1900 Jan-Feb-Mar Pontypool Gwent, Monmouthshire


James Redvers Thomas 1901 Jul-Aug-Sep Farnham Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex


As you mentioned Wales - I'll give you the details for that one:

Name: James Redvers Thomas
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pontypool
County: Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 163 (

Will check the 1901 census for you now that we know when he was born for sure...

Athena

im trying to find a james redvers thomas on the 1901 census, i think he was born in 1901 or 1900 as he was married in 1923 and his age then was 22yrs old. His father was Joseph Thomas. I think it will be in Wales census...
any help appreciated..

alison.x