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7 Oct 2018 20:38 |
How do you know Tom was killed in 1916?
Is there any information on the Ffestiniog WWI memorial?
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7 Oct 2018 20:23 |
If you look at the CWGC site Malyon mentioned, you will see there are a lot of men named Thomas or T Davies who died in WWI.
Some entries have extra information such as parentage or names of a wife to help identify them, others have little more than name, rank and regiment. Again, some have age at death, some do not.
You could go through them to see if you can identify Tom.
https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
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7 Oct 2018 20:20 |
Ellis in 1901 at an Industrial School in Manchester:
First name(s) Ellis Last name Davies Relationship Asst Schoolmaster Marital status Single Sex Male Age 22 Birth year 1879 Birth town Festiniog Birth town as transcribed FESTINIOG Birth place Wales Birth place other as transcribed - Birth county Merionethshire Birth county as transcribed MERIONETHSHIRE Occupation Schoolmaster House name - House number - Street - Town - Parish South Manchester Country England County Lancashire Municipal ward Ardwick Registration district Chorlton Other household member first name(s) - Other household member last name - Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3692 Folio 205 Page 1 Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys
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Frances
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7 Oct 2018 20:17 |
That's him in the census so if he was there when he enlisted he may have joined one of the South Wales battalions. However the cwgc entry is not him. His parents were David and Jane and they didn't live in Llanelly/i. I have a note that he had two children Betty and Jack so he married between 1911 and whenever he left for war.
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7 Oct 2018 20:15 |
Ellis in 1911 at Blue Coats ?
1911 Census For England & Wales
Church Road Wavertree, Wavertree, Lancashire, England
Name: Ellis Davies Age in 1911: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Assistn Master (Master) Gender: Male Birth Place: Festiniog, Merioneth Civil Parish: Wavertree County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Marital Status: Single Occupation: School Teacher Registration district: West Derby Registration District Number: 455 Sub-registration district: Wavertree ED, institution, or vessel: 40-41 Piece: 22693 Household Members: Name
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7 Oct 2018 20:07 |
Tom (Thomas) in 1911?
1911 Census For England & Wales
102 and 103 High Street Merthyr-Tydfil, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Isaac Williams Boarder Single Male 33 1878 Drapery Manager Ciliau Devon Thomas Howells Boarder Single Male 17 1894 Drapery Assistant Merthyr Cardigan Glam Arthur Probert Boarder Single Male 22 1889 Drapery Assistant Pentre Rhondda Glam Alfred Thomas Harper Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Drapery Assistant St Dogmaels Glam >>>>>>>>Thomas Davies Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Drapery Assistant Festiniog Pembrokeshire Hedley Osborne Boarder Single Male 16 1895 Drapery Apprentice Cardiff Glam Monmouthshire Gwladys Davies Boarder Single Female 21 1890 Drapery Assistant Cilfynydd Glam Elizabeth Jane Roberts Boarder Single Female 23 1888 Drapery Assistant Pontlottyn Glam Harriet Francis Boarder Single Female 17 1894 Drapery Assistant Aberdare Glam Margaret Davies Boarder Single Female 36 1875 Drapery Assistant Brecon Breconshire Celia Jones Boarder Single Female 29 1882 Book Keeper Gray Breconshire Elizabeth McKay Boarder Single Female 67 1844 Housekeeper Edinburgh Edinburgh Annie Griffiths Boarder Single Female 22 1889 Servant Merthyr Glam Maggie Davies Boarder Single Female 18 1893 Servant Troedyrhiw Glam Beatrice Chappell Boarder Single Female 25 1886 Millener Bridgend Glam
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7 Oct 2018 20:02 |
Census 1881, for name of his mother, Jane:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pant Llwyd, Festiniog, Ffestiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
>>>David Davies Head Married Male 28 1853 Quarryman Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales >>>>Jane Davies Wife Married Female 26 1855 Quarryman Wife Trawsfynydd, Merionethshire, Wales Lizzie J Davies Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Ellis Davies Son Single Male 2 1879 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
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7 Oct 2018 19:56 |
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/435094/davies,-thomas/
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7 Oct 2018 19:53 |
DAVIES, THOMAS Service Number 185
Died 03/07/1916
Aged 22
1st Bn. Welsh Guards
Son of David and Margaret Jane Davies, of 8, Victoria Terrace, Sea Side, Llanelly.
Buried at LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY
Location: West-Vlaanderen, Belgium Number of casualties: 10121
Cemetery/memorial reference: VIII. B. 43A.
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7 Oct 2018 19:53 |
For the benefit of helpers:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Highgate, Festiniog, Ffestiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
David Davies Head Widower Male 48 1853 Slate Quarry Man Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Maggie Davies Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Ellin Davies Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Thomas Davies Son Single Male 15 1886 Draper's Apprentice Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales Jane Davies Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pant Llwyd, Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
David Davies Head Widower Male 38 1853 Slate Quarryman Merionethshire, Wales Lizzie Davies Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Merionethshire, Wales Ellis Davies Son - Male 12 1879 - Merionethshire, Wales Maggie Davies Daughter - Female 9 1882 - Merionethshire, Wales Ellen Davies Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Merionethshire, Wales Thomas Davies Son - Male 5 1886 - Merionethshire, Wales Jane Davies Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Merionethshire, Wales Ann Jones Servant Widow Female 33 1858 Domestic Servant Anglesey, Wales
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Frances
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7 Oct 2018 19:05 |
Tom was killed in the War. I am trying to find out where and how. In 1901 he was living at Highgate Ffestiniog, 15 years old and described as a Draper's apprentice.Also living there were David Davies the father, Maggie aged 19, Ellen ( Nell) aged 17, and Jane aged 13. An older sister Elizabeth died in 1899 and an older brother Ellis ( born in 1880) has moved away. I don't know where Tom enlisted or in what regiment. He has disappeared from the 1911 Census and if he was by then living away he could have enlisted wherever he was living. We know that Ellis became a teacher in Bluecoats school in Liverpool and wonder if he and Thomas may have lodged together there but we can't find them. I have just returned from Ypres and in the large book of names of every British soldier who died in the Great War I found the name Tom Davies and Cheshire Regiment. Can you help me 1. Find out where and how Thomas died 2. In order to find this out it would help to know where he lived when he enlisted and what regiment he was in 3. I would asdo like to know where Ellis trained as a teacher. With thanks
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