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Fiona
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26 Apr 2016 19:55 |
I would be very grateful for some help in finding James Randall post the 1901 census. He was born in 1858 in Birmingham and I have found him on the 1861-1901 census records then he disappears. In 1901 he was a fruit merchant living in Augusta Road, Kings Norton with his wife, six children and two servants. Both James and his wife Clara were still alive in 1911 (he died in 1930) and he was still in business as I have found his son Leonard who is listed as working for his father. He is definitely NOT the James Randall listed in the Salvation Army hostel, which is the only "James Randall" of the right age that I can find. I`m not very good at "random" searches but I know some of you are so here`s hoping!
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26 Apr 2016 20:02 |
for info
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Augusta Road, Moseley, Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Randall Head Married Male 43 1858 Fruit Merchant Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Clara M Randall Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Bertram Randall Son - Male 18 1883 Fruit Salesman Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Leonard Randall Son - Male 15 1886 Clerk Merchants Office Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Ernest Randall Son - Male 13 1888 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Violet Randall Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Clara V Randall Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Kate Pears Servant Single Female 23 1878 Gen Servant (Domestic) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription Harriet Perkins Servant - Female 15 1886 Gen Servant (Domestic) Staffordshire, England
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26 Apr 2016 20:03 |
Just for ref 1901
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Augusta Road, Moseley, Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England
James Randall Head Married Male 43 1858 Fruit Merchant Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Clara M Randall Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Bertram Randall Son - Male 18 1883 Fruit Salesman Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Leonard Randall Son - Male 15 1886 Clerk Merchants Office Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Ernest Randall Son - Male 13 1888 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Violet Randall Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Clara V Randall Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Kate Pears Servant Single Female 23 1878 Gen Servant (Domestic) Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Harriet Perkins Servant - Female 15 1886 Gen Servant (Domestic) Staffordshire, England n
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26 Apr 2016 20:11 |
Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%) RANDALL Clara Victoria 10 King's N. 6c 265
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26 Apr 2016 21:09 |
Ernest Randall England and Wales Census, 1911 Name Ernest Randall Event Type Census Event Date 1911 County Warwickshire Parish Birmingham Sub-District St Martin Registration District Birmingham Gender Male Age 23 Birthplace Bham, Warwickshire Record Type Household
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26 Apr 2016 21:18 |
When son Leonard married on 19 June 1910, he gave his address as Augusta Rd. Moseley. His father was not one of the witnesses.
Pension record Name: Leonard Randall Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1886 Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1910 Marriage Place: Birmingham Age: 29 Document Year: 1915 Residence Place: 37 Runcorn Road, Balsall Heath, Birmingham Regimental Number: 15102 Regiment Name: Coldstream Guards Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Leonard Randall Self (Head) Edith Maud Birch Spouse
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26 Apr 2016 23:46 |
On the 1911 census that malyon posted Ernest is a police constable living at the police station.
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Fiona
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27 Apr 2016 17:39 |
Thank you all very much for trying. I have all the information you`ve come up with I just can`t find James after 1901 until his death in 1930. I suppose the house could have been missed or the census record lost---frustrating!
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27 Apr 2016 19:34 |
He was still there- although it does seem to be missing from the 1911- try looking at electoral registers:
1912: James Randall Place/ Abode: Hatfield, Augusta Road, Moseley Nature of qualification: Sale rooms (joint) Description of qualifying property: 43 Jamaica Row
1920 James Randall Clara Matilda Randall 'Hatfield' Augusta Road
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27 Apr 2016 19:45 |
Did he marry again?
Clara's death: name(s) CLARA M RANDALL Gender Female Birth year 1857 Age 65 Death quarter 1 Death year 1922 District KINGS NORTON County Worcestershire Volume 6D Page 72 ------------------------------------------------------
Marriage: Name: James Randall Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1925 Registration district: Birmingham South Inferred County: Warwickshire Spouse: Ellen L L Lear Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 275 ----------------------------------------------------------
1930 Electoral register: 18 Augusta Road, Moseley & Kings Heath Ward. James Randall Ellen Louisa Livingston Randall Ivy Gertrude Lear Elizabeth Dage ----------------------------------------
National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 RANDALL Ellen Louisa Livingstone otherwise Ellen Louise Livingstone of 38 Greenbank Ave, Hall Green, Birmingham 28, widow died 5th December 1946 Probate Birmingham 3rd February to Louisa Melinda Livingstone Harrison ( wife of John Henry Lionel Harrison) and Constance Ethel Harrison spinster
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27 Apr 2016 19:52 |
Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%) Randall Bertram Knight King's N. 6c 572
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Fiona
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28 Apr 2016 07:17 |
thank you once again AustinQ. I can`t have been looking very thoroughly as I had tried the electoral registers but it was some time ago. Now Ellen is hugely interesting, James was of course in living memory of my previous generation and no one ever mentioned a second wife. You`ll be pleased to hear that that concludes my "missing persons" and you`ve given me loads to go on.
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