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County Norfolk
Place Downham Market
Church name St Edmund
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 102
Marriage date 9 Feb 1901
Groom forename David Henry
Groom surname RICHES
Groom age 28
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom parish Hilgay
Groom occupation Warrener
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname COE
Bride age 30
Bride condition Spinster
Bride parish Downham
Groom father forename -
Groom father surname -
Groom father occupation -
Bride father forename James
Bride father surname COE
Bride father occupation Ostler
Witness1 forename Ambrose Thomas
Witness1 surname RANSOME
Witness2 forename Etheil
Witness2 surname DEARSLEY
Notes Banns; All Signed

edits

10 September 1938 - Bury Free Press - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk,

BRANDON.
Sentences of a month's hard labour, to run concurrently, were imposed by the Methwold magistrates on Wednesday On two men who appeared in a series of assault charges. Horace Arthur Riches, of Hythe Road, Methwold, labourer, was summoned for faulting John William Thompson at Methwold on August 6th, James Riches was summoned for assaulting a girl named Jane Wright, and the two Riches were jointly charged with assaulting George Maidwell, all at the same time and place. Mr. J. Westwood appeared for the prosecutors. The cases were the result of a midnight scene.


Births Sep 1901 (>99%)
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RICHES James Henry Downham 4b 335


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Council Ho Hythe Road , Downham R.D., Norfolk
James A (H on image) Riches 17 Aug 1901 Male Agri Lab Single
Mary Riches 15 May 1870 Female Householder Widowed
Rachel Gelder 05 Mar 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Married


Deaths Jun 1938 (>99%)
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Riches David H 64 Thetford 4b 352


(seems to have a connection with below )

Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
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VEAL David Henry Downham 4b 333

https://www.geni.com/people/David-VEAL-RICHES/6000000001594343733


(in case of!)

Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
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RICHES Sarah Downham 4b 610
VEAL John Downham 4b 610

edits (apologies to Shirley, above 1939 added)

has anyone found another Horace Arthur Riches or Arthur H Riches, of around the correct age?

I couldn't, which is why I thought there was the connection .............. although I did mistake Ernest as his father.

Although you had never previously posted the names of his parents!

Not seeing the connection between Ernest and David. but it does look like it is a famliy connection somewhere

Think George is mistrancribed and is Mary son nee Coe

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Workhouse Row, Hilgay, Downham, Norfolk, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
David H Riches Head Married Male 28 1873 Warrener Hilgay, Norfolk, England Transcription
Mary Riches Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Crimplesham, Norfolk, England Transcription
George H Cox Son - Male 8 1893. - Downham Norfolk

Yes he is Coe

Births Jun 1892
Coe George Herbert L Downham 4b 361

His father died before the 1939 reg

DAVID H
Last name RICHES
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1874
Age 64
Death quarter 2
Death year 1938
District THETFORD
County Norfolk
Volume 4B
Page 352
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

His marriage
David Henry
Last name Riches
Sex Male
Age 28
Birth year 1873
Residence Hilgay
Marriage year 1901
Marriage date 09 Feb 1901
Parish Downham Market with Bexwell
Diocese Ely
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Coe
Spouse's age 30
Spouse's parish Downham
Spouse's father's first name(s) James
Spouse's father's last name Coe
County Norfolk
Country England
Archive Norfolk Record Office
Archive reference PD 333/17
Page 51
Record set Norfolk marriages

Mum Mary is living with her son James in 1939

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Riches Household (3 People)
Council Ho Hythe Road , Downham R.D., Norfolk, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Mary Riches 15 May 1870 Householder
James A Riches 17 Aug 1901 Agri Lab
Rachel Gelder 05 Mar 1901 Unpaid Domestic
Ref: RG101/6549H/011/26 Letter Code: TRIK

Possibly Ernest

Scotland Census Transcription
86 Wodehouse Street Norwich, Norwich, Norfolk, England

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Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Edmund Thomas Riches Head Widower Male Clicker 45 1866 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Ernest Edmund Riches Son Single Male Mechanical Engineer 21 1890 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Leah Ethel Riches Daughter Single Female - 19 1892 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Henry George Riches Son Single Male Mechanical Engineer 17 1894 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
George Albert Riches Son - Male - 11 1900 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Arthur Harold Riches Son - Male - 8 1903 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Leslie James Riches Son - Male - 6 1905 Norwich Norfolk Transcription
Maria Crome - Single Male Housekeeper 46. 1865. Lakenham Norfolk



First name(s) ERNEST E
Last name RICHES
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1933
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ERNEST E RICHES married
HILDA M CORDER
Spouse's last name CORDER
District BLOFIELD
District number -
County Norfolk
Country England
Volume 4B
Page 514
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


So looks like Arthur was still single and living with possible Riches relations in 1939

1911 census


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Station Road West Dereham Stoke Ferry, West Dereham, Norfolk, England

David Henry Riches Head Married Male Labourer 38 1873 Hilgay Transcription
Mary Riches Wife - Female - 40 1871 Crimplesham Transcription
James Henry Riches Son - Male School 9 1902 Hilgay Transcription
Horace Arthur Riches Son - Male School 8 1903 Alfold Surry Transcription
William Albert Riches Son - Male School 7 1904 Alfold Surry Transcription
Leslie John Riches Son - Male School 3 1908 Hilgay Transcription
George Ernest Riches Son - Male - 0 1911 West Dereham

Hello Sylviain
Thank you for your 1939 information I have looked at it but do not know who Earnest and Hilda are as Horace's parents were David and Mary so I was trying to find a connection but as yet no luck.
Thanks again for your help it is appreciated
Vivienne

Vivienne .......

I posted the 1939 Register .................

Horace is on there, living with his parents, but going under Arthur H Riches

Thank you Dea
But unfortunately there is no name on them as this was my first question to her they are WW2 medals and my father also got WW2 medals and there is no name on them either
Vivienne x

You say you are looking for his service number ?????

Your friend has the medals - If you look around the outside edge of the rims of the medals his name, service number and Regiment should be marked on there !!

Dea x

Thank you for all your help Ann you have the correct one as Horace was born 27 Aug 1902 in Alford Surrey but soon moved to Norfolk and he died 4Q1991 aged 89. I have found him on the 1911 census but cannot find him on the 1939 register I think he could have already signed up. Thank you Detective I will past that info on. My friend has medals of his but no info and would love to have them framed and give him a story on the medal box it reads Infantry records Warwick could this have been his regiment?

from FMP

1939 Register

Riches Household (4 People) "Corner Cottage",The Street,And Garage,Street Brundall Lane , Blofield and Flegg R.D., Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation

Arthur H Riches 23 Aug 1902 Wholesale Grocers Clerk Labourer
Ernest E Riches 09 Aug 1889 General Engineer Fitter & Turner (Mas
Hilda M Riches 13 May 1897 Unpaid Domestic Duties
William Patterson 10 Mar 1901 Engineers Fitter Labourer

there are some differences above from what the image actually says!

from image:-

Address:- Corner Cottage and Garage, The Street

Ernest:- b. 9 Aug 1889

Hilda:- b. 13 May 1897

Arthur H:- b. 23 Aug 1902 , Single, Wholesale Grocer's Clerk and Sales m(rest of this word is hidden in the fold of the page)

William Patterson:- Single, probably lodger

Military records from about 1920 onwards will still be with the MOD.

This is the link for obtaining UK service records:
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html
Check the link to see which degree of relations are entitled to receive a detailed copy.

Unless his widow, or who ever holds her Power of Attorney, can sign the form the records will cost you £30. It can take many months before they arrive.

Unless you know differently, he may have been in a reserved occupation and not conscripted into the Forces.

??????????

Name Horace A Riches
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1942
Registration District North Walsham
County Norfolk
Event Place North Walsham, Norfolk, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Walker
Volume 4B
Page 123
Line Number 94

Horace A Riches probably married one of the following people
Name Eva E Walker

Name Horace Arthur Riches
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Norfolk
Parish West Dereham
Sub-District Fincham
Registration District Downham
Gender Male
Age 8
Birthplace Alfold, Surrey
Record Type Household

Name Horace Arthur Riches
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Norfolk
Parish West Dereham
Sub-District Fincham
Registration District Downham
Gender Male
Age 8
Birthplace Alfold, Surrey
Record Type Household

could this be him?

Name Horace Arthur Riches
Event Type Death Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1991
Registration District Downham
County Norfolk
Event Place Downham, Norfolk, England
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969) 27 Aug 1902
Volume 10
Page 1119

can you tell us when and where he was born please

I am trying to find out some information on Horace Arthur Riches especially his WW2 regiment and or service number if anyone can help with any infromation it will be gratefully received as I have hit a brick wall