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Brilliant, thanks so much!!

I do believe that the 1861 IS them even though Edward is marked as a mechanic as both William and Sarah J were born in Lancashire and their baptisms show Edward as a Joiner :


Baptism: 26 Feb 1843 St Thomas, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Sarah Jane Glover - Daughter of Edward Glover & Mary
Abode: Ardwick
Occupation: Joiner
Notes: [Previous incomplete entry deleted. A duplicate of number 1447]
Baptised by: W. Bannister Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1844, Page 184, Entry 1466
Source: LDS Film 2148094


Baptism: 20 Nov 1850 St Simon and St Jude, Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Glover - [Child] of Edward Glover & Mary
Born: 24 Oct 1850
Abode: Mild Street
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: Laurence F. Moran
Register: Baptisms 1849 - 1865, Page 355, Entry 2833
Source: LDS Family Search

Can't find a baptism for daughter Mary but she was born in Bolton and Lancs BMD also confirms that her mothers maiden name was Parker:


1847:
GLOVER Mary Halliwell Bolton PARKER HALL/4/46


Dea x

ahhh ok yes that could be a possibility then if they were living in Manchester during 1850s

I believe that's the case, safc, I've tried all sorts of combinations to try to find the family in 1851.

Edit: I was working from that 1861 census to try to find them in 1851 but then read Shirley's post and realized that I probably posted the wrong family in 1861.

Don't think that 1861 census is them as that Edward is a mechanic

Your Edward was a Joiner

Missing data / damaged records

The 1851 census contains transcriptions and reconstructed images for around 180,000 individuals - available online for the first time - which have been retrieved from severely damaged pages.

The records for the Manchester, Chorlton, Salford, Oldham and Ashton-Under- Lyne registration districts were water damaged many years ago due to flooding.

As a result many were too fragile to be filmed or no writing was visible, but a 14 year project by the Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society (MLFHS) has recovered information from around 82 per cent of the damaged records.

The reconstructed images follow the same layout as the originals, and where relevant include details of neighbouring households.

the glover family could be one that is water damaged

yes I presume that to be them

Is this the family in 1861?

Edward Glover

in the 1861 England Census
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Name: Edward Glover
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Glover
Gender: Male
Where born: Beeston, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Tissington
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashborne
Sub-registration district: Calton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 2522
Folio: 8
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Glover 45
Mary Glover 46
Edward Glover 21
Sarah J Glover 18
Mary Glover 14
William Glover 10
George Glover 6

The family were living in Manchester a few months before the 1851 census:

Baptism: 20 Nov 1850 St Simon and St Jude, Manchester, Lancashire, England
William Glover - [Child] of Edward Glover & Mary
Born: 24 Oct 1850
Abode: Mild Street
Occupation: Joiner
Baptised by: Laurence F. Moran
Register: Baptisms 1849 - 1865, Page 355, Entry 2833
Source: LDS Family Search


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference

GLOVER William London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library PARKER LRD/32/80


Dea x

Not seeing him on the 1851 as yet

Nor the 1861 census

Here they are on the 1881 census

England Wales &Scotland Census Transcription
1, Thackerays Yard, Radford, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Edward Glover Head Married Male 65 1816 Joiner In Factory Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Mary Glover Wife Married Female 65 1816 - Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England


Living with son John in 1891
England Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Curzon Street, Carlton, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
John Glover Head Married Male 53 1838 Railway Engine Driver Nottingham Transcription
Eliza Glover Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Burton on Trent Transcription
Edward Glover Father Married Male 75 1816 Joiner Beeston, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Glover Mother Married Female 76 1815 - Mansfield

His death
EDWARD
Last name GLOVER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1816
Age 78
Death quarter 1
Death year 1894
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 7B
Page 137
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

Here he is on the 1871 census

England Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Street, Radford, Nottinghamshire, England

Edward Glover Head - Male 54 1817 - Nottinghamshire, England Occ joiner
Mary Glover Wife - Female 55 1816 - Nottinghamshire, England Transcription
Mary Glover Daughter - Female 24 1847 - Lancashire, England Transcription
George Glover Son - Male 16 1855 - Derbyshire, England Transcription
Mary Jane Glover Granddaughter - Female 8 1863 - Derbyshire, England

I also cannot find another 1851 census for him

Yeah well I thought that but according to other trees those are his parents ... maybe I shouldn't be so quick to trust them?

That's the wrong Edward on the 1851 census

Posting for info
Edward Glover
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relation: Son
Father's name: Robert Glover
Mother's name: Hannah Glover
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Piece: 2131
Folio: 326
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Glover 62
Hannah Glover 59
Edward Glover 19

Well pre 1837 it's parish records for BMD,s

Here is the marriage

Nottinghamshire marriages, 1528-1929 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) Edward
Last name Glover
Marriage year 1835
Marriage date 05 Oct 1835
Marriage place Nottingham
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Parker
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Record set Nottinghamshire marriages, 1528-1929
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Nottinghamshire Family History Society

Transcriptions © Nottinghamshire Family History Society

Oh didn't know that.. still he's meant to be 35 in 1851 which is a large gap from 19. It's very odd.

Dont forget the 1841,census ages were rounded to the nearest 5 years for adults

So if someone was 23 they would be recorded as 25. But aged 22 they would be recorded as 20

According to other family trees on ancestry he married her 5th oct 1835 in Nottingham but I can't find a marriage index to confirm this.
Hes on all the census' with her... they all make sense more or less until you get to the 1851 one when he should be 35 years old but he goes back to being 19.

When did he marry Mary ??

Is he on any census with her?

I am researching an Edward Glover born 1816 in Nottinghamshire, who married a Mary Parker - he had many children but my link is with his son James.
I am confused with the census information - it seems there is an error in the 1851 census and I just wondered whether anyone could confirm this or help me understand where I may be going wrong.

1841 census -- all seems to ,make sense aged 25
**1851 census <<<<<< goes back to aged 19 living with parents Robert and Hannah

1861 + census --- aged 45 - all seems to make sense again.

Is this a census error or mine?

Thank you in advance!! :-)