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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 15:29 |
Please can anybody help me locate a marriage. The details are as below:-
William Lock born approx 1808 in Pulham Norfolk
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Mary Ann Wright born approx 1813 in High Wycombe
Their son Joseph William was born in 1843 in High Wycombe so I presume they got married in that area.
Additionally if anybody can trace William or Mary's births I would be very grateful as I seem to be hitting walls with them also.
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Julie
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Apr 2016 15:48 |
Have you tried FreeBMD as they only seem to have Joseph on the 1851 census
William Lock Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Lock Gender: Male Where born: Pulham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Westminster St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St Margaret ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 138 Piece: 1480 Folio: 344 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age William Lock 42 Mary A Lock 34 Joseph Lock 7
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 15:51 |
Joseph is with them on 1851 and 1861.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Apr 2016 15:51 |
How do you know Mary ann,s full name ?
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 15:53 |
I purchased the birth certificate of Joseph William - their son
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 16:08 |
If I can find the marriage I will purchase the certificate to help find the births.
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malyon
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8 Apr 2016 16:39 |
found this mary ann
Mary Ann Wright England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 birth: 1813 death: 1891 Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England
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malyon
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8 Apr 2016 16:48 |
Name Joseph W Lock Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Lambeth, London,Surrey, England Registration District Lambeth Residence Note Larkhall Lane Gender Male Age 38 Marital Status (Original) Married Occupation Commercial Traveller (Color Tech) Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1843 Birthplace High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England Page Number 17 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 605/12 Affiliate Record Type Household Joseph W Lock Head M 38 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England Jane Lock Wife F 36 Clapham, Surrey, England Arthur F W Lock Son M 12 Islington, Middlesex, England George C Lock Son M 9 Lambeth, Surrey, England Louisa M Lock Daughter F 5 Lambeth, Surrey, England Harry J Lock Son M 3 Lambeth, Surrey, England Rosina M Lock Daughter F 1 Lambeth, Surrey, England
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KathleenBell
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8 Apr 2016 16:59 |
There is a marriage to a John Lock:-
First name(s) Mary Ann Last name Wright Marriage year 1867 Marriage date 09 Feb 1867 Parish St George Place East Stonehouse, St George Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Lock Denomination Anglican City or town Stonehouse, Plymouth County Devon Archive South West Heritage Trust Record set Devon Marriages
or a marriage much later to a William Lock:-
First name(s) MARY Last name WRIGHT Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1877 Registration month - MarriageFinderâ„¢ MARY WRIGHT married one of these people *****WILLIAM FRANCIS LOCK*****, WILLIAM FERGUSON District PLYMOUTH District number - County Devon Country England Volume 5B Page 419
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 17:05 |
Kath I don't believe that is the marriage as they seem to have stayed around High Wycombe - unfortunately I cant see a marriage there :(
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 17:06 |
Malyon that is the correct son - just need to find parents records now. It could well be her death though
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AustinQ
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8 Apr 2016 17:34 |
If that's her death that Malyon put up at 8 Apr 2016 16:39, then she never married William Lock.
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Julie
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8 Apr 2016 22:58 |
Yes your correct Austin - not thinking straight she would be Lock
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AustinQ
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9 Apr 2016 07:30 |
Perhaps you could email Ken Lock:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/46252320/Thesis-Male-Lock-e-s-Born-in-South-and-West-of-Norwich-Norfolk-England-During-16th-to-Mid-19th-Century-V1-0a
William Lock bc1809 (or c1808, or c1811?) in Pulham (S of Norwich),assumed to William Lock bc1777 and Elizabeth Tumner. This William shown in the Westminster St Margaret, Middlesex 1851 census (aged 42i.e. bc1809), a bricklayer, living with his younger wife (aged 34) Mary Abc1817 in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire and son (aged 7) Joseph Lock bc1844 in High Wycombe. Also shown in the Lambeth St Mary 1861census (aged 53 i.e. bc1808), a bricklayer, living with his wife (aged 48) Mary Ann bc1813 and son (aged 18) Joseph W Lock bc1843, a collector,both in Wycombe, Bucks (not born in Sussex, as recorded). This William and Mary Ann were possibly parents of William Walter Locke b1844, and possibly a related to Henry Lock bc1780, John Locke (or Lock?) bc1804 (or c1801, or b1807), James Lock bc1812 and James Lockbc1818
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Apr 2016 07:45 |
County Norfolk Place Pulham Market Church name St Mary Magdalene Register type Archdeacon's Transcripts Marriage date 9 Jan 1797 Groom forename William Groom surname LOCK Groom condition Bachelor Groom parish Wymondham Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname TUNMER Bride condition Spinster Witness1 forename Charles Witness1 surname ROOPE Witness2 forename John Witness2 surname BOYCE Notes Groom And First Witness Sign X
Baptism County Norfolk Place Pulham Market Church name St Mary Magdalene Register type Parish Register Baptism date 21 Apr 1805 Person forename Elizabeth Person sex F Father forename William Father surname LOCK Mother forename Elizabeth
Burial County Norfolk Place Pulham Market Church name St Mary Magdalene Register type Parish Register Register entry number 324 Burial date 10 Aug 1832 Person age 56 Burial person forename Elizabeth Burial person surname LOCK
(in case of Parents, by any chance!, from below link)
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
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AustinQ
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9 Apr 2016 08:11 |
William and Mary in 1861:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 15, Stangate Street, St Marys, Lambeth, London, England
William Lock Head Married Male 53 1808 Bricklayor Norfolk, England Mary Ann Lock Wife Married Female 48 1813 - Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Joseph W Lock Son - Male 18 1843 Collector Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, Michael Albright Lodger Married Male 56 1805 Workmans Timekeeer At The Storeses Of Parliament Ireland Elizabeth Albright Wife - Female 51 1810 - Cork, Cork, Ireland ---------------------------------------------------------------
In 1871 Mary is widowed, still living in Stangate Street, Lambeth- this must be William's death (Stangate Street):
Name: William Lock Record Type: Burial Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Death Date: abt 1862 Burial Date: 1 Feb 1862 Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, England Parish or Poor Law Union: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Abode Stangate Street, Lambeth ------------------------------------------
Deaths Mar 1862 (>99%) LOCK William Lambeth 1d 207
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AustinQ
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9 Apr 2016 08:41 |
OK, was wondering why I couldn't find a death for Mary Ann after the 1871 census in Lambeth- it was because she married (which is helpful, as now you have her father's name :-D )
AND GUESS WHAT!! She never married William Lock- on her marriage she is listed as SPINSTER.
Name: Mary Ann Wright, Spinster, 15 Stangate Street Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Age: 60 Spouse: Richard Carter, Widower, Labourer, 15 Stangate Street Spouse Age: 63 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 8 May 1876 Parish: St Philip, Lambeth Borough: Lambeth Father Name: George Wright, Carpenter Spouse Father: James Carter, Labourer (Deceased) Register Type: Parish Register
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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stangale Street, Lambeth, London, England
Mary Lock Head - Female 54 1817 - Buckinghamshire, England Richard Carter Boarder - Male 55 1816 - Wiltshire, England -----------------------------------------------------
Here she is again in 1881- getting younger!
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 15, Stangate Street, Lambeth, London, England
Mary Ann Carter Lodger Head Widow Female 60 1821 Laundress Buckingham, ----------------------------------------------------
Possible death? First name(s) MARY ANN Last name CARTER Gender Female Birth year 1816 Age 67 Death quarter 1 Death year 1883 District LAMBETH County London Volume 1D Page 244
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9 Apr 2016 09:22 |
A snippet that might be of interest:
South London Press - Saturday 25 May 1867 LAMBETH: On Tuesday, a carpenter named Edward Gibson wassentenced to 20 days hard labour for committing a brutal assault upon Mary Ann Lock, his landlady, at 15 Stangate Street, on the previous Tuesday.
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Julie
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9 Apr 2016 10:30 |
Thank you so much for this Austin. I wonder why she is down as Lock on the census?
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9 Apr 2016 11:07 |
She lived as William's wife and therefore assumed his name. It was only when she "remarried" that she reverted to Wright and spinsterhood. Maybe telling an untruth in Church worried her
Jude
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