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Hi can anyone help with possible ancestors of a FREDERICK HERBERT POTTER born 1902 (?) who married in spt 1946 to a GLORIA M MORTLOCK....Frederick died 6/7/1963.. I am aware of purchasing certificates is the route, but as I am doing this reseach for a friend avoiding purchasing any unnecessary certs would I am sure be appriciated....thank you for your time .

for area reference

Mortlock Gloria M Potter Colchester 4a 1410
Potter Frederick H Mortlock Colchester 4a 1410

and the only Frederick Herbert birth registered in the timescale

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
Potter Frederick Herbert Lexden 4a 831

Frederick Herbert Potter
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Lexden
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 831

Is this him?

Field Cottage , Lexden and Winstree R.D., Essex, England

Frederick H Potter 06 Jun 1902 Male Agriculture Tractor Driver Heavy Worker Single

Henry Potter 08 Mar 1873 Male Farm Labourer Heavy Worker Widowed

Laura Potter 01 Dec 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Home Duties Married

NAME: Frederick H Potter
SPOUSE: Mortlock
MARRIAGE: Sep 1946 - Colchester, Essex
OTHER: QMar-Jul-Aug-Sep 1946

thank you for your promt replies both ROOTGATHERER and LANCASHIRE ANN This wii ease cert.purchasing no end ..many thanks :-)

Possible?

Frederick Potter

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Frederick Potter
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Great Horkesley, Essex
Civil Parish: Little Horksley
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County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: Old Workhome, Little Horkesley, Colchester
Registration district: Lexden
Registration District Number: 199
Sub-registration district: Fordham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 28
Piece: 10358
Household Members:
Name Age
Laura Potter 38
Daniel Potter 16
Percy Potter 11
Frederick Potter 8
Albert Potter 6
Violet May Potter 2

Laura says married not widowed but no husband with her.

Says married 18 years, 9 children, 3 had died, 6 still living.

possible previous marriage in birth reg district and 44 is perhaps a little late to be marrying for the irst time

Marriages Jun 1929 (>99%)
Hammond Ellen M Potter Lexden 4a 1749 Scan available - click to view
Potter Frederick H Hammond Lexden 4a 1749

Do you know for sure that your Frederick's middle name was Herbert please?

There is a Frederick Harry Potter born in Colchester in 1902 and I think that he maybe married Gloria. I have found this marriage which maybe Frederick Herbert's as it's in the same registration district as Frederick Herbert's birth.

Frederick H Potter
Spouse Surname: Hammond
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Registration district: Lexden
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 1749


EDIT

Forget that Frederick Harry was born Suffolk. This is his death

Frederick Harry Potter
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1902
Date of Registration: May 1992
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2043

also many thanks PatinCyprus...that seems to be highly probably the correct person, with also his parents names as well ...many ,many thanks

Same family that I posted in 1911, now in 1901:

Henry Potter

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Henry Potter
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Laura Potter
Birth Place: Great Horkesley, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Horksley
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Ecclesiastical parish: Great Horksley
Town: Great Horksley
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Fordham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1718
Folio: 39
Page Number: 11
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Potter 26
Laura Potter 29
Daniel Potter 6
Mary E Potter 4
Percy M Potter 1

Name: Henry Potter
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Lexden
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 812
Records on Page:
Name
Henry Potter
Laura Sparks


Henry not a widower then in 1939 on original document it's married.

Name: Henry Potter
Registration Year: 1873
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Lexden
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 355

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Jun 1892 (>99%)
Potter Henry Lexden 4a 812
Sparks Laura Lexden 4a 812

on 1939 register it's 1st Dec 1871 but registered January 1872

Name: Laura Sparks
Registration Year: 1872
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Lexden
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 359

If the Hammond / Potter marriage is your Frederick, I wonder if they divorced as Frederick says he's single in 1939 ( not divorced or widowed).

Here's the death of Ellen Maud Potter nee Hammond

Ellen Maud Potter
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1908
Date of Registration: Jun 1992
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2095


The Frederick Ellen married was born 1908 and they are together on the 1939 register and he was born 1908 so not your Frederick so you can discount that as a first marriage for your man.

Gloria's family in 1939 in case you don't ave it

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1939 Register, in association with The National Archive
Cyril G Mortlock on the 1939 Register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Mortlock Household (4 People)
Vinesse Cottage , Lexden and Winstree R.D., Essex, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)
Walter Mortlock
Isabel Mortlock
Cyril G Mortlock
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Difficult to identify Henry and Laura's families. Suggest either buying wedding cert for fathers names or the birth certs then you will have both parents and mmn.

I know you didn't want to buy the certs but needs must.




:-)

To all of you who took the time to post information I am grateful for you having taken the time. You have confirmed much of what I in my amaturish way had thought was right,so can now purchase the certs on the other persons behave.

So once again my grateful thanks. DAVID