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10 Mar 2016 10:40 |
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php
(probably variants of surname on above, using Soundex)
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PatinCyprus
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10 Mar 2016 10:37 |
Could this be his mother's death. Most of my paternal family are from the Kingswinford area and at times it's been difficult to find BMDs until I got into the routine of searching Dudley as well as Stourbridge. Kingswinford is an area of Dudley roughly equidistance between the centre of Dudley and Stourbridge.
Name: Elizabeth Bullas Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Registration Year: 1882 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 27 Registration district: Dudley Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6c Page: 26
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9 Mar 2016 22:45 |
We can't know what happened all that time ago, but we can suggest possible theories.
My theories are as below
First, we don't know how long Samuel had been living with the Tennant's in 1891, just that he was there at that one moment in time. He could have arrived the day before or 6 years before.
1. Assumption ............ he had lived with them from soon after birth, he had become known as the Tennant nephew, and assumed that his surname was Tennant. His parents either died, emigrated, or dumped the child on his aunt and uncle.
Assume aunt was sister of his father William.
2. Assumption ............. he has used the surname Tennant for so long that he continues to use it when he married, BUT he has been told that his father's name was William.
3. Assumption ............... we cannot know why he is described as nephew in 1891 and grandchild in 1901 because we do not know WHO gave the information to the Enumerator. It could have been either of the adult Tennants OR it could have been a neighbour. After all the Tennants were old.
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Joanna
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9 Mar 2016 21:46 |
I am thinking maybe something happened to Samuel Bullus parents & he moved in with his grandparents who were called Tennant - hence the name change.
On Samuels marrage cert he is down as Samuel Tennant & quotes his father as William Tennant - this is what has confused me !!!
Why would he of said his father was Tennant when it was Bullus - his Father was deceased at the time of the marrage (Samuel was 20)
Thankyou all so much for your help - will start sending for more certificates to hopefully prove this !
My Dad is over the moon about this as its been something he has wanted to find out for ever ! X
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Mary
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9 Mar 2016 09:06 |
I think it is just a mistake with Samuel Tennant Bullas,they got it the wrong way round.
It seems the most likely explanation is that Sarah had William Bullas/Bullus 1854 he married widow Elizabeth Herbert Sept 1884 and they had Samuel 1884.
I haven't found anything on William and Elizabeth after the birth of Samuel 1884.
Maryb.
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Joanna
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8 Mar 2016 20:54 |
& is he a nephew or grandson to sarah & Samuel !!!
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Joanna
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8 Mar 2016 20:50 |
Thankyou for all the replys !
Someone else who is working on the same tree has him as Samuel Bullas - Parents William Bullas & Elizabeth (unknown)
All very confusing lol.
So it looks like sarah bullus had William out of wedlock then married Samuel ? So William changed his Name to Tennant when his Mum married his (possible)Dad ?
Why then would Williams Dad have his name as Samuel Tennant Bullas ?
Thankyou so much for your help x
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malyon
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8 Mar 2016 19:33 |
only marriage i can see for william and lily samuel would have been about 10yrs old
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) Tennant William Theedy Kensington 1a 278
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Mary
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8 Mar 2016 19:18 |
1901 he is Samuel Bullus 16 grandson to Samuel and Sarah Tennant and their children Matilda and Joseph.
Did and Sarah Bullus who married 1855 have William Bullus Jan 1854 Stourbridge V6c P222.He is down as William Tennant 1854 on census returns That would explain the name change.
21/9/1884 William Bullas age 29 married Elizabeth Herbert a widow,his dad was given as Samuel Tenant Bullas.
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Andrew
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8 Mar 2016 19:03 |
Baptism??
Name:Samuel Bullus Gender:Male Baptism Date:31 Dec 1884 Baptism Place:Holy Trinity, Kingswinford, Stafford, England Father: William Bullus Mother: Elizabeth FHL Film Number:1470764 Reference ID:item 3 p 24
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8 Mar 2016 18:57 |
Possible marriage for aunt and uncle
Marriages Dec 1855
?.....Bullas Sarah - Stourbridge 6c 283 TENNANT Samuel - Stourbridge 6c 283
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malyon
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8 Mar 2016 18:49 |
could this be samuel in 1891 census
Name Samuel Tennant Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Worcestershire Parish Kingswinford Ecclesiastical Parish BROCKMOOR Registration District Stourbridge Residence Note Sun Street Gender Male Age 6 Marital Status Single Relationship to Head of Household Nephew Birth Year (Estimated) 1885 Birthplace Staffordshire, England Page Number 16 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 2308/ 25
Samuel Tennant Head M 59 Staffordshire, England Sarah Tennant Wife F 56 Staffordshire, England James Tennant Son M 19 Staffordshire, England Matilda Tennant Daughter F 14 Staffordshire, England Joseph Tennant Son M 11 Staffordshire, England Samuel Tennant Nephew M 6 Staffordshire, England
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8 Mar 2016 18:36 |
This would cover Brierley Hill....
Births Jun 1885 Bullock Samuel - Wolverhampton 6b 608
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Andrew
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8 Mar 2016 18:21 |
1911 for ref
Name:Samuel Tennant Age in 1911:25 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Birth Place:Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish:Ilkeston Search Photos: Search for 'Ilkeston' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Street address:30 Westwick St Ilkeston Marital Status:Married Occupation:Labourer At Iron Foundery Registration districtBasford Registration District Number:429 Sub-registration district:Ilkeston ED, institution, or vessel:27 Piece:20418 Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Tennant 25 Sophia Tennant 25 Lily Tennant 5 Samuel Tennant 4 Sarah Tennant 2 Andy
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Joanna
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8 Mar 2016 18:08 |
Should of stated Samuels age was 20 when he married sofia in 1905 & 'Father' William was deceased.
The 1911 cencus has Samuels birth place as Brierley hill, Staffordshire but cant find a samuel bullock or Tennant born there in that time frame !
I have been looking for about 10y but now my Dad is unwell I would love to solve this mistery for him !
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Joanna
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8 Mar 2016 18:05 |
I have come to a dead end in my reasearch & would love to find out about this for my Dad who is unwell. My Dads Dad is John Henry Tennant, Siblings Lily, Albert Edward, sarah, may, eileen, samuel.
John Henrys Dad was Samuel Tennant - however we have now hit a dead end !
We have Samuels marriage cert to sophia fox with his father listed as William Tennant.
Family stories say that Samuel was born a Bullock but changed his name to Tennant - I can see a marrage between a Lily Bullock & a William Tennant (Lily is also Samuels oldest daughters name) & the marriage would of been when Samuel was about 9-10 years old.
How can I find anything out ! Im really stuck !
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