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7 Mar 2016 18:22 |
Am trying to find any records of Letitia Carlin daughter of Isaac Carlin and Hannah Kent at Shirland c1884. I have the 1891 and 1901 census but cannot find anything else. Any help appreciated.
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7 Mar 2016 18:25 |
Just for reference helpers
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 17, New Houghton, Pleasley, Pleasley (Derby), Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Isaac Carlin Head Married Male 40 1861 Coal Miner Hewer Cold Aston, Derbyshire, England Hannah Carlin Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Higham, Derbyshire, England Letitia Carlin Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Cotton Spinner Shirland, Derbyshire, England Isaac Carlin Son Single Male 15 1886 Coal Worker (Below Ground) Shirland, Derbyshire, England Transcription Alice E Carlin Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Higham, Derbyshire, England Cynthia Carlin Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Higham, Derbyshire, England Sam W Carlin Son Single Male 9 1892 - Higham, Derbyshire, England George H Carlin Son Single Male 7 1894 - Higham, Derbyshire, England Elizabeth Carlin Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Pleasley, Derbyshire, England
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7 Mar 2016 18:36 |
Not with family by 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 253 New Houghton Pleasley Mansfield, Pleasley, Nottinghamshire, England Isaac Carlin Head Married Male Miner Hewer 50 1861 Cold Aston Yorks Hannah Carlin Wife Married Female - 46 1865 Higham Derbys Isaac Carlin Son Single Male Miner Hewer's Loader 25 1886 Shirland Derbys Cynthia Carlin Daughter Single Female Domestic Servant 20 1891 Bump Mill Derbys Sam William Carlin Son Single Male Miner Loader Hewers 19 1892 Bump Mill Derbys George Henry Carlin Son Single Male Miner Pony Driver Below Ground 17 1894 Higham Derbys Elizabeth Carlin Daughter Single Female Factory Hand 14 1897 New Houghton Derby Pleasley Parish William Henry Carlin Grandson Single Male - 1 1910 New Houghton Derby Pleasley Parish
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7 Mar 2016 18:49 |
Could be Isaac and Hannah were married after Letitia was born.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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CARLIN Isaac Nottingham 7b 511 Kent Hannah Nottingham 7b 511
in which case could this be her birth??
Births Jun 1884 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kent Lilian Letitia Chesterfield 7b 713
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7 Mar 2016 18:53 |
Could well be right Andy,
the 1891 has her as Leblia K
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Higham, Shirland, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
Isaac Carlin Head Married Male 30 1861 Coal Miner Derbyshire, England Transcription Hannah Carlin Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Higham, Derbyshire, England Leblia K Carlin Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Shirland, Derbyshire, England Transcription Isaac Carlin Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Shirland, Derbyshire, England Emma Carlin Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Shirland, Derbyshire, England Transcription Alice Carlin Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Derbyshire, England Transcription Cynthia Carlin Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Brent Mill, Derbyshire, England
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7 Mar 2016 18:56 |
Could well be Andy they weren't married until 1885. Will have to follow that one up and see if I can find anything else. Thanks for all your help it's much appreciated.
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7 Mar 2016 18:59 |
Marriage
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- KENT Lilian Letitia Mansfield 7b 124 Seals George Mansfield 7b 124
and 1911
Age and place of birth are right
Name:Letitia Seals Age in 1911:27 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1884 Relation to Head:Wife Gender:Female Birth Place:Shirland, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish:Pleasley Search Photos: Search for 'Pleasley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island:Nottinghamshire Country:England Street address:325 New Houghton Occupation:At Home Registration district:Mansfield Registration District Number:428 Sub-registration district:Shirebrook ED, institution, or vessel:8 Piece:20295 Household Members: Name Age
George Seals 34 Letitia Seals 27 Jessie Seals 8 Ivy Seals 5 Jane Seals 4 Gladys Seals 3 Edna Seals 1
6 children born 5 living..all girls. Andy
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7 Mar 2016 19:03 |
Her death?
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Jun 1941 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals Lilian L 57 Chesterfield 7b 1472
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7 Mar 2016 19:06 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) George Last name Seals Name note - Age 25 Marriage year 1902 Marriage date 1902 Marriage place Pleasley Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Seals Spouse's first name(s) Lilian Letitia Spouse's last name Kent Spouse's age 180000 Spouse's birth year 1884 Spouse's birth date 1884 Residence Pleasley, Derbyshire, England County Derbyshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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7 Mar 2016 19:06 |
Wow Andy that's brill. You must know exactly where to look. I couldn't find anything. Thanks again :-)
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7 Mar 2016 19:08 |
More children after the census
Births Dec 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals Elsie L Kent Mansfield 7b 171
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals George Kent Mansfield 7b 161 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1914 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SEALS Blanche Kent Mansfield 7b 204 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1916 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals Millicent A Kent Mansfield 7b 160 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1918 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals Edwin Kent Mansfield 7b 144 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals Robert Kent Mansfield 7b 203 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1921 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SEALS Dennis I Kent Mansfield 7b 209 Scan available - click to view
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals John Kent Mansfield 7b 170
I make that 14 in all........
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7 Mar 2016 19:08 |
Looking that way malyon
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7 Mar 2016 19:09 |
1939 Register
Household (5 People) 325 Devonshire Street , Blackwell R.D., Derbyshire, England
Lilian Letitia Seals 16 Feb 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 181 2 George Seals 14 Feb 1876 Male Coal Hewer Heavy Worker Married 181 1 Robert Seals 11 Dec 1919 Male Incapacitated Single 181 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
John Seals 09 Nov 1923 Male Underground Miner Haulage Single 181 5
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7 Mar 2016 19:14 |
Where's that info from Gins?
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7 Mar 2016 19:15 |
Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index Transcription Print transcription First name(s) Lilian Lucy Last name Kent Marriage year 1948 Parish Breaston Methodist Chapel Place Breaston Spouse's first name Harry Thompson Spouse's last name Hallam Reference IRO/12/086 Register Office Erewash (Ilkeston) County Derbyshire Country England Record set Derbyshire Registrars Marriage Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
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7 Mar 2016 19:17 |
Sue
It's from Find My Past (FMP)
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7 Mar 2016 19:18 |
Possible death for George
Deaths Dec 1950 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seals George 74 Chesterfield 3a 189
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7 Mar 2016 19:24 |
Thank you all for your help you've been amazing. Now to order the birth certificate and find out for sure.
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7 Mar 2016 19:38 |
Sue
You might try Derek before you buy the certificate. He has lots of parish records
Here he is
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1191073
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7 Mar 2016 19:47 |
Thanks Gins will do
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