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I have hit a brick wall in researching Irish, American and Canadian records attempting to trace part of my Father's family Tree. Anne Frances Kelley was born in Montreal Canada in January 1863 to William Kelley and Catharine Ryan- both of whom were born in Ireland. Anne France Kelley's marriage license [to Francis Joseph Prendergast in 1884 in Manhattan] reveals her parents as I have indicated and also that Anne Frances was born in Montreal. I researched the Canadian records and learned that Catharine Ryan and William Kelley were married in Notre Dame Basilica in Montreal in 1850, and, that at the marriage, they were widow and widower with Catharine having previously been married to Patrick Long of Tipperary. I checked through rootsireland.ie and found that Catharine Ryan and Patrick Long married May 3 1844 in Holycross, Tipperary. I can find no documents showing either leaving Ireland, arriving in Canada, or Anne Frances coming into the United States. According to rootsireland, Holydross parish did not maintain records before 1835 so I cannot locate Catherine Ryan's birth or other children. Can anyone help? Maureen Prendergast [pineau]

The witnesses to the 1844 marriage were Edward Cantwell & Margaret Dwyer - not much help in finding family. The image is on Ancestry - if you don't have access, I can PM it to you.

Yes. Thank you. I do have that entry.

Maureen Can you PM the image to me and I will see what I can find ?

found this

Name Timothy Long
Event Type Death
Event Date 13 Dec 1860
Event Place Worcester, Massachusetts
Residence Place Worcester, Mass.
Gender Male
Age 3
Marital Status Single
Birthplace Worcester, Mass.
Birth Year (Estimated) 1857
Father's Name Patrick Long
Father's Birthplace Ireland
Mother's Name Catherine Ryan
Mother's Birthplace Ireland

Name: Patrick Long
Event Type: Birth
Birth Date: 31 Mar 1861
Birth Place: Worcester, Massachusetts
Father Name: Patrick Long
Mother Name: Cate Ryan

Name: Patrick Long
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1861
Birth Place: Worcester
Death Date: 19 May 1864
Death Place: Worcester, Massachusetts, USA
Age at Death: 3
Father: Patrick
Mother: Catharine
Wills and Probates: Search for Patrick Long in Massachusetts Wills & Probates collection

Maureen, where did the middle name Frances come from? I only see references relating to Annie Kelley.

to match the info about the child Timothy, here is the 1860 US census for the household showing ages and places of birth

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZCF-5Q4

Ward 2 Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States

Patric Long M 35 Ireland
Catharine Long F 33 Ireland
James Long M 7 Massachusetts
Mary Long F 6 Massachusetts
Thomas Long M 4 Massachusetts
Timothy Long M 3 Massachusetts
Willie Long M 1 Massachusetts

so if your Catherine married in Montreal in 1850, that is unfortunately not the right family

new thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359350