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I wonder if any one can help me, I am tracing my mother FT, she was Kathleen Butler before marrying my father Edward William Harris, Her mother was Florence Twose nee Venner, and her FT Day, I always remember her telling me wen I was small that we were related to Cox Cave in Cheddar Somerset, however I can not find the Cox's family in my tree apparently it was George Cox who discovered this cave back in 1837. All her ancestors come form around that area, am I missing something????

Was your mom born in Reading in 1932? If so, her mothers maiden name was 'Twose' not 'Venner'

What does this mean - her FT Day?

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Name Florence Elsie Venner
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Berkshire
Parish Reading
Sub-District St Giles
Registration District Reading
Gender Female
Age 16
Birthplace Reading, Berkshire
Record Type Household

Cox's Cave is in Cheddar Gorge on the Mendip Hills, in Somerset, England. It is open to the public as a show cave.

The cave is named after mill owner George Cox who discovered it in 1837, while quarrying limestone for a new building.[2][3] Cox immediately opened it as a show cave the following year and ran it as a private enterprise until landowner, Thomas Thynne, 5th Marquess of Bath, took it over at the beginning of the 20th century.[4] It was connected by a tunnel to the adjacent artificial Pavey's Cave in 1987.[5]

alternative spelling for Cox?

Name Ernest F Venner
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1913
Registration District Reading
County Berkshire
Event Place Reading, Berkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3) Cocks
Volume 2C
Page 731
Line Number 50

think FT must be Family Tree? is Day a surname?

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Name William E Harris
Event Type Marriage Registration
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1921
Registration District Brighton
County Sussex
Event Place Brighton, Sussex, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911) Butler
Volume 2B
Page 630
Line Number 130

Butler probably married one of the following people
Name Kathleen J Butler

Apologies yes her maiden name was Twose, i was typing faster than my brain... FT Day is i have gone back to Day surname still can't find Cox. My grandmother was very good with history and dates but i still cant see a connection

According to several trees on Ancestry.........this is the George Cox who discovered Cheddar Cave in 1837.......

George Cox in the 1861 England Census
Name: George Cox
Age:61
Estimated Birth Year: 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Cox
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheddar, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Cheddar
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Axbridge

Household Members:

George Cox 61 (Proprietor of Stalactite Cave and Cliffs Hotel)
Sarah Cox 60
Lydia Cox 26
Matilda Cox 25
Edward Cox 22
John Wesley Cox 20
Charles Cox 17
James S Cox 12
Emily Withers 16

He apparently had 14 children .........so good luck with that one! :-D

.. Day

mentioned in the record of Richard Cox and ... Day

Name Richard Cox
Spouse's Name ... Day
Event Date 22 Jan 1728
Event Place Yeovil, Somerset, England

Is this your gran's marriage?



Berkshire Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Florence May
Last name Twose
Birth year 1892
Marriage day 18
Marriage month Sep
Marriage year 1923
Parish Reading
Place Reading
Church St Giles
Spouse's last name -
Groom's first name Sidney Edmonstone
Groom's last name Butler
Groom's age 35
Groom's condition Bachelor
Groom's occupation Farmer
Bride's first name Florence May
Bride's last name Twose
Bride's age 31
Bride's condition Spinster
Groom's father's name Joseph
Groom's father's occupation Farmer
Bride's father's name Francis James
Bride's father's occupation Butcher
Licence or banns By Banns
Witnesses Stanley Raddon; Florence Mollie Venner; B. G. Venner; J. Butler; M. J. Twose
County Berkshire
Country England


Where does the name Venner come in relation to her please? I see there are Venners as witnesses.


and her birth.



Berkshire Baptisms Transcription

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First name(s) Florence May
Last name Twose
Baptism year 1892
Baptism date 04 Sep 1892
Parish Reading
Church St Luke
Relationship daughter of
Father's first name Francis James
Father's last name Twose
Father's residence Erleigh Rd
Father's occupation Butcher
Mother's first name Maria Jane
Mother's last name Twose
County Berkshire

Ah right, answered my own question. Florence's mother was a Venner.



Berkshire Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Francis James
Last name Twose
Birth year 1854
Marriage day 4
Marriage month Nov
Marriage year 1889
Parish Reading
Place Reading
Church St Giles
Spouse's last name -
Groom's first name Francis James
Groom's last name Twose
Groom's age 35
Groom's condition Bachelor
Groom's occupation Butcher
Groom's residence Erleigh Road
Bride's first name Maria Jane
Bride's last name Venner
Bride's age 27
Bride's condition Spinster
Bride's residence Southampton Street
Groom's father's name William
Groom's father's occupation Farmer
Bride's father's name William Tucker
Bride's father's occupation Merchant
Licence or banns By Banns
Witnesses William John Day Venner; Sarah Ann Twose

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32, Erleigh Road, Reading St Giles, Reading, Berkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Marian J Twose Head Widow Female 39 1862 Butcher Berkshire, England
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Florence M Twose Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Berkshire, England
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William V Twose Son - Male 6 1895 - Berkshire, England
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Evelyn F Jones - Single Female 18 1883 Domestic Servant Watlington, Oxfordshire, England



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
54 London Road Reading, Reading, Berkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Richard James Venner Head Widower Male Bacon Curer 45 1866 Berks Reading
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Florence Nellie Venner Daughter - Female School 13 1898 Berks Reading
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>>Maria Jane Froose Sister Widow Female House Keeper 49 1862 Berks Reading
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??Alice Mary Cox Servant Single Female General Servant Domestic 21 1890 Berks Inglefield

I wonder if this is the parents of Edward F Venner whose birth AnnCardiff posted?


Berkshire Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Walter Edward
Last name Venner
Birth year 1885
Marriage day 5
Marriage month Dec
Marriage year 1906
Parish Reading
Place Reading
Church St Giles
Spouse's last name -
Groom's first name Walter Edward
Groom's last name Venner
Groom's age 21
Groom's condition Bachelor
Groom's occupation Barman
Groom's residence Redland Street, Newport, Mon
Bride's first name Florence Alice
Bride's last name Cocks
Bride's age 20
Bride's condition Spinster
Bride's residence 57, Carnarvon Road
Groom's father's name William
Groom's father's occupation Warder
Bride's father's name John
Bride's father's occupation Factory Hand
Licence or banns By Banns
Witnesses John Cocks; Florence Lavina Grant


This is them in 1911.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
125 Elgar Road Reading, Reading, Berkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Walter Venner Head Married Male Brewers Drayman 26 1885 Wornwood Scrubs Middlesex
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Florence Venner Wife Married Female - 24 1887 Reading Berks
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Walter Venner Son - Male - 3 1908 Newport Mon
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Vera Venner Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Reading Berks

Walter snr's parents were William 1848 and Amelia 1863 but not managing to tie them in so far to Maria Jane.

I don,t recognize these names above. However i do know Richard James he was my uncle.
I don't knoe this William E Harris this is not my fathet or his family.y fathet is Edward William b1929 in Yateley myother is Kathleen Mary Butler b1932 Reading. Married Eversley 1953.
Dont recognize Ernest F Venner but could be related coming from Reading i woll look into them