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Ann
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25 Feb 2016 14:06 |
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Did he sail to Canada first before going to the US and does the document state where they are going to or doing on this trip?
Lookup of Original Document if possible please have found an entry on Familysearch for the above person as follows:-
US Border Crossings from Canada to the US
Arrival Date 28th April 1931
Arrival Port Niagara Falls, New York
Age: 25y birth Year: 1906
Birthplace: Bolton
Accompanied by Sister Lola
Departure Contact name: Mother Mrs Gertrude Whitworth
Alice Lola was born in 1908 in Bolton Lancashire to Charles Whitworth and Gertrude Mary Aspinhall
Further searching of records I can't find either James Thomas or Lola in this country UK did they stay in the US
Any help would much appreciated
Many thanks in advance :-)
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greyghost
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25 Feb 2016 14:12 |
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There is this one - he is a Butcher. Travelling with Gertrude age 46 a Shop Assistant, Alice 22 Shop Assistant.
Last address Uk - 74 Bradford Road, Hodder Lane, Farnworth
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
First name(s) JAMES
Last name WHITWORTH
Gender Male
Age 24
Birth year 1906
Occupation BUTCHER
Departure year 1930
Departure day 9
Departure month 5
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port QUEBEC
Destination QUEBEC
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name ALBERTIC
Ship official number 147459
Ship master's first name P R
Ship master's last name VAUGHAN
Shipping line WHITE STAR
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 14066
Ship registered tonnage 18940
Number of passengers 325
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Ann
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25 Feb 2016 14:16 |
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Could be all 3 names match
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2016 14:31 |
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and their arrival in Canada on that voyage:
Alice Lola Whitworth
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Alice Lola Whitworth
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 18 May 1930
Vessel: Albertic
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Place of birth Bolton.
Going to: Uncle; Robert Aspinall, 201 Dover Court Road, Toronto
NOK: aunt; Mrs E Pinder, 2 Whitehall Street, Rochdale.
Travelling with Gertrude M, and James.
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Ann
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25 Feb 2016 14:34 |
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Thank you greyghost and ArgyllGran :-)
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ArgyllGran
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25 Feb 2016 14:56 |
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Ancestry's version of the Border Crossing record -
Lola Whitworth
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: Lola Whitworth
Birth Date: abt 1908
Birth Place: Bolton
Birth Country: England
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: 28 Apr 1931
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Accompanied By: Brother Jas Thos
Departure Contact: Mother Mrs Gertrude Whitworth
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards
Image of record is dark and hard to read.
Address: 113 (or 1113) Dundas Street West, Toronto.
Blue eyes.
She was only making a day trip to Niagara Falls.
And the record for James on the same occasion:
James Thomas Whitworth
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
Name: James Thomas Whitworth
Birth Date: abt 1906
Birth Place: Bolton
Birth Country: England
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: 26 Apr 1931
Port of Arrival: Niagara Falls, New York, USA
Accompanied By: Sister Lola
Departure Contact: Mother Mrs Gertrude Whitworth
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards
Address: 1113 Dundas Street West, Toronto.
Ruddy complexion; brown hair, blue eyes.
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MargaretM
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25 Feb 2016 15:03 |
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On that border crossing in 1931 James & Lola were only planning to stay one day.
Edit: Sorry ArgyllGran, didn't see your post.
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Ann
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25 Feb 2016 16:06 |
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Thank you all :-)
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mgnv
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26 Feb 2016 15:53 |
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Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ASPINALL William DOWBEKIN Mary J Bolton, St Peter Bolton 18/25/169
Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 1 Jan 1874 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
William Aspinall - (X), 23 Mill Overlooker Bachelor of 143 Moncrieff St.
Mary Jane Dowbekin - (X), 19 Spinster of 15 Howell Croft
Groom's Father: John Aspinall, Carder
Witness: Thomas Dawson, (X); Agnes Dixon, (X)
Married by Banns by: Henry Powell Vicar
Notes: ['Illegitimate' is written in the Bride's father's name column]
Register: Marriages 1873 - 1875, Page 85, Entry 169
Source: Film of the register at Manchester Library
1881 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXN-S2SJ
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1874 ASPINALL Robert Eastern Bolton Bolton DAWBEKIN EB/71/425
1878 ASPINALL Sarah Eastern Bolton Bolton DOWBIKIN EB/80/66
1880 ASPINALL Elizabeth E Eastern Bolton Bolton DOWBEKIN EB/84/259
1882 ASPINALL Gertrude M Eastern Bolton Bolton DOWBEKIN EB/88/74
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WHITWORTH Charles ASPINALL Gertrude M Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/151/92
1911 23293 South West Bolton
Title:Passenger Lists: Quebec City (1925-1935)
Mikan Number:134839
Microform:t-14763
Page 262 of 605
Left Liverpool 9/5/1930 on SS Albertic, arr Quebec City 18/5/1930
Nearest relly in UK is Mrs Sarah Pinder, 2 Whitehall St Rochdale (Gert's sis)
Destined to R Aspinall, 201 Dovercourt Rd, Toronto (Gert's bro)
[If Dovercourt ran all way to Lakr, it would run thru the middle of the stadium on the CNE grounds]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-14763/jpg/CANIMM1913PLIST_2000908343-00262.jpg
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ASPINALL Sarah PINDER Harry Bolton, St George Bolton 61/7/267
Marriage: 9 Apr 1898 St George, Bolton, Lancs.
Harry Pinder - 24, Painter, Bachelor, 44 Bark Street
Sarah Aspinall - 19, Spinster, 2 Oliver Lane
Groom's Father: Charles Pinder, Watchmaker
Bride's Father: William Aspinall, Hawker
Witness: Charles Owen Pinder; Elizabeth Aspinall
Married by Banns by: Chas. H. Saunders Curate
Register: Marriages 1893 - 1902, Page 134, Entry 267
Source: LDS Film 1966159
1921
Name: Robert Aspinall
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1875
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna Aspinall
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1909
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Toronto South
District Number: 133
Sub-district: Ward 4
Sub-District Number: 14
City, Town or Village: Toronto South
Street or Township: 9 Brant Place
Municipality: Ward 4
Occupation: Labourer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Aspinall 46
Anna Aspinall 48
Sarah Aspinall 17
William Aspinall 16
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26 Feb 2016 15:54 |
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ASPINALL Robert STATON Hannah Bolton, St Peter Bolton 18/31/277
Marriage: 16 Jul 1898 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Robert Aspinall - 24 years Grinder Bachelor of 31 Princess Street
Hannah Staton - 25 years Spinster of 46 Waterloo Street
Groom's Father: William Aspinall, Overlooker
Bride's Father: Thomas Staton, Overlooker
Witness: John Staton; Elizabeth Aspinall
Married by Banns by: E. Hoskyns, Vicar
Register: Marriages 1893 - 1902, Page 139, Entry 277
Source: Film of the register at Manchester Library
Title:Ocean Arrivals, Form 30A, 1919-1924
Mikan Number:161349
Microform:t-14947
Page 1955/2225/2297 of 4551 [back of form on pteceeding image]
H http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-14947/jpg/30927_2000901277-01955.jpg
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http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm10/d10/006003/t-14947/jpg/30927_2000901277-02224.jpg [blank]
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Robt
Ship:CARONIA
Shipping Line:Cunard Steamship Co. Ltd.
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Date of Departure: 1919-08-09
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia New York
Date of Arrival: 1919-08-17 1919-08
Year:1919
Microfilm Reel Number:T-14796
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:13470
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e244/e006087160.jpg
[image quaity v poor Rob't is 10th from end - Ancestry might have better quality image]
On 1921 census, Robt immig 1919 & rest immig 1920.
Not unusual for hubby to go out first to get job, accom, etc sorted, then have family join him later.
However, Robt's 1919 trip looks like he's a returning solder, and here's his attestation form dated 28/4/1916:
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/well1/223563a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/well1/223563b.gif
Robt's a grinder from Toronto, pob=Bolton, and n.o.k. is wife Hannah in Bolton - clearly our guy.
Name: ASPINALL, ROBERT
Regimental Number: 249486
Date of Birth: 14/07/1874
Reference:RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 275 - 1
Item Number:15562
Digitized service file - PDF format:
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B0275-S001
[lucky he's an Aspinall - it'll be nearly 3y before they get to Whitworths
Download is 107 pages - 40MB]
After training in Canada, Robt arrives in England 17/5/1917, and is placed in reserve.
He has some health problems and is hospitalized three times, returning to reserve in Bexhill and later Witley (near Godalming).
His final hospitalization s just after armistice day, when he's run over by an ambulance, breaking his fibuka.
Robt is not w Hannah & kids on 1911 in piece 23404 (a SW Bolton piece $)
1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Waterloo South / 17 Galt / page 28
9 304 Clayton Charles R M Head M May 1873 38
10 304 Clayton Sarah Ann F Wife M Nov 1832 38
11 304 Clayton Robert M Son S Nov 1895 15
12 304 Clayton Lily F Daughter S Jun 1900 10
13 304 Clayton Lester M Son S Aug 1902 8
14 304 Clayton Edith F Daughter S Oct 1909 1
15 304 Rogers Stanley M Lodger S Nov 1874 36
16 304 Aspinall Robert M Lodger S Nov 1874 36
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002033519.pdf
[Robt Aspinall is a grinder - immig 1910]
Ship:LAURENTIC
Shipping Line:White Star Line
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Date of Departure: 1910-09-11
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que.
Date of Arrival: 1910-09-23 1910-09
Year:1910
Microfilm Reel Number:T-4772
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:5485
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e143/e003566477.jpg
[Robt is a grinder]
PS - 1921 image sent by pm
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mgnv
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26 Feb 2016 16:46 |
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Maybe:
Deaths Sep 1926 (>99%)
Whitworth Charles 45 Bolton 8c 242
http://tinyurl.com/jjs5fm9BuriedOn:
21 July 1926
Recorded at:
Heaton Cemetery (Lancashire)
If you live near Bolton, check out:
http://www.bolton.gov.uk/website/pages/Burialrecords.aspx
If possible, it helps to know who's in the same grave.
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AnnCardiff
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26 Feb 2016 17:07 |
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don't you have another Whitworth posting?
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