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Many thanks to Kath and to all the other people who took time to help. I had snippets of info but not enough data to place him correctly on my tree. Thanks again. Mave x

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Calculated Age
1821 (Estimated from age 21yo at 1843 [See arrivalDate of om2797] as at 1843)
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Place Of Birth
leicester
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estimatedBirthYear
1821
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1842-02-25
Conviction

Offence Detail
stealing 2 cheeses
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Prior Convictions
once 6 weeks for picking pockets; 3 mths for garden robbing; for housebreaking 11 weeks and discharged; 6 weeks for a hen roost
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Prosecutor Details
prosecutor at church gate leicester
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Sentence
7
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Sentenced Court
quarter session
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Place Of Sentencing
leicester leicester borough
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1843-04-14
Sailed

Sailed Days
127
Sailed From
Sheerness
sailedRoute
C. Vde
Ship Master
Wm. M. Maw
Ship Name
Gilmore
Ship Surgeon
Jas. Syme

1843-08-19
Arrived

Population
Embarked:?254M/Deaths:3M/Landed:249(VDL)M
To Colony
VDL

1843-08-20
VDL convict records

Arrival Date
1843-08-20
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Ship
Gilmore (3)
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Ship
Gilmore 3rd
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Surgeons Report Character
troublesome
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1843-08-20
Physical description

Calculated Age
1821 (Estimated from age 21 as at 1843)
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Height Calculated Total Inches
67
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Height Feet
5
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Height Inch
7
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1843-08-20
Social and family

Family Relationships
f. thomas; m. elizabeth; b. jospeh, edward, richard
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Literacy
reads
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Marital Status
single
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Religion
protestant
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Trade
brickmaker perfect
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Trade
brickmaker
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So it seems that the family found (father Thomas and mother Elizabeth) is correct.

Possible for Thomas's parents and two brothers in the 1841 census (same street as the 1851 census where Elizabeth is a widow):-

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bedford Street, St Margaret, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place

Thos Roomes Male 50 1791 Leicestershire, England<<<<<<<<<<<
Joseph Roomes Male 14 1827 Leicestershire, England
Edward Roomes Male 12 1829 Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Roomes Female 50 1791 Leicestershire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

If the baptism given by Maddie above is the right one then this is a possibility for Thomas's mother in the 1851 census living with one of Thomas's married brothers (this brother called his first son Thomas so that could be after his father):-

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
78, Bedford Street, St Margaret, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Richard Rooms Head Married Male 33 1818 F W K Earl Shilton, Leicestershire, England
Sarah Rooms Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Mary Rooms Daughter - Female 10 1841 School Leicestershire, England
Thomas Rooms Son - Male 5 1846 School Leicestershire, England
Joseph Rooms Son - Male 3 1848 - Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Rooms Mother Widow Female 63 1788 F W K Pauper Earl Shilton, Leicestershire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kath. x

It's a prison malyon. I think the age is actually 18 (would fit with his age being 19 in 1842) and he is a framework knitter.

Kath. x

could this be him in 1841 could be in a workhouse or prison


Name Thomas Rooms
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place St Martin, Leicestershire, England
Residence Note Leicester Borough Gaol
Gender Male
Age 15-19
Age (Original) 15
Institution Leicester Borough Gaol
Birth Year (Estimated) 1822-1826
Birthplace Leicestershire
Registration District Leicester
Book Number 6
Parish St Martin
County Leicestershire
Page Number 1
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 605/36
Affiliate Record Type Institution

Seems like a harsh sentence. He stole 2 cheeses.

Kath. x

?????
Name: Thomas Rooms
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1822
Baptism Place: St Margaret, Leicester, Leicester, England
Father: Thomas Rooms
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1656180
Reference ID: 395

Name: Thomas Rooms
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Date of Trial: 28 Jun 1841
Trial Year: 1841
Location of Trial: Leicestershire, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Name: Thomas Rooms
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Date Received: 8 Mar 1842
Ship: Warrior
Place Moored: Chatham and Woolwich
Date Convicted: 25 Feb 1842
Place Convicted: Leicester

Name: Thomas Rooms
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Date of Trial: 27 Feb 1840
Trial Year: 1840
Location of Trial: Leicestershire, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

was he born leicestershire

born 1823

Thomas
Last name Rooms
Occupation -
Age 19
Birth year 1823
Year 1842
Date 25 Feb 1842
Prisoner number 1495
Court Leicester
Place -
Crime Stealing
Sentence type -
Sentence duration 7Y
Series HO8
Source Home Office: Convict Hulks, Convict Prisons and Criminal Lunatic Asylums: Quarterly Returns of Prisoners
Piece number 75
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison registers
Collections from Great Britain

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transported on the Gilmore 1843 to Van Diemensland for 7 years.Who were his parents and did he ever return to England.?

Mave Brown (Rooms)