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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 20:33 |
Could anyone help with Margaret McKitcham b1834 Scotland She was married 1855 Newcastle to Robert Hudspeth
But cannot find her birth Thank you Just said on the census born Scotland
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 20:51 |
to help us ............ is this the family in 1871??
1871 Census
Name: Margaret Hudspeth Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Hudspeth Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Newcastle Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Newcastle County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 1 Piece: 5099 Folio: 4 Page Number: 1
Robert Hudspeth 36 b.ca 1835, Newcastle, Northumberland, Joiner Margaret Hudspeth 37 Matthew Hudspeth 15 Isabella C Hudspeth 13 Robert C Hudspeth 13 John A R Hudspeth 11 Dinah C Hudspeth 9 William F Hudspeth 6 Finlay M Hudspeth 5 Humphrey C Hudspeth 3 Septimus Hudspeth 1
All children born Newcastle
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 20:54 |
Pauline ........
Have you got their marriage certificate?
If so, what is the name of Margaret's father?
You are probably going to need Scotland's People, which is a pay-per-view site, although you can search for free and see if you can find Margaret and then decide whether you want to spend the money to see the full details.
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 21:00 |
Her name is spelled differently on freebmd .............
Marriages Mar 1855 (>99%)
HUDSPETH Robert Newcastle T. 10b 160 McKichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 1
where did you get the McKitcham spelling from?
ah, I see ...... still a different spelling from the one you gave, but the transcribers had a problem ...........
This entry was created from the following transcriptions:
Mc Kichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 160 freebmdcc #COMMENT Correction Reference 2012-00-117188 caused this entry to be added. Claimed Source was "GRO M/Film" Mc Kichan Margaret Newcastle T. 10b 160 flipwaggy MCKICHAM Margaret Newcastle T 10b 160 honeybee
The first spelling, Mc Kichan. was submitted by a user who seemingly said they had seen the GRO microfilm
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 21:06 |
?????????????
ancestry is not allowed to have the images, but you would be able to look at it for pay-per-view on Scotland's People
1851 Scottish Census
Name: Margaret McKichen Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Gorbals, lanark Parish Number: 625 Civil Parish: Bothwell Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Lanarkshire Address: Holytown Manse Occupation: House Servant ED: 24 Page: 25 Household schedule number: 86 LINE: 7 Roll: CSSCT1851_149
John Wilkie 41 Minister Of Quod Sacra Parish Of Holytown Mary Ann Wilkie 40 John G W Wilkie 5 James W Wilkie 4 Lorraine W Wilkie 2 North D Wilkie 1 Mary Brown 30 Ann Mckechnie 26 Margaret McKichen 17
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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 21:08 |
Got it from another member on Ancestry
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 21:11 |
???????????? possible????
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Margaret Mckichen Gender: Female Birth Date: 6 Mar 1834 Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1834 Baptism Place: Gorbals,Lanark,Scotland Father: Archibald Mckichen Mother: Isabella Cumming FHL Film Number: 1042982
You need to get that marriage certificate to find out the name she gives for her father
Then you probably need to buy some credits on SP so that you can look at this birth certificate
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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 21:11 |
Thank you will buy some credits
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ArgyllGran
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1 Feb 2016 21:15 |
This is likely to be the birth of the Margaret in the 1851 census posted by Sylvia:
13/04/1834 MCKICHEN MARGARET ARCHIBALD MCKICHEN/ISABELLA CUMMING FR853 (FR853) F GORBALS GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 644/02 0040 0312
That's from ScotlandsPeople.
But as Sylvia said, you need to know her father's name from her marriage cert, in order to be sure.
???? Possibly that family in 1841 ??
Margaret Mckeehan in the 1841 Scotland Census Name: Margaret Mckeehan Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Gender: Female Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland Civil Parish: Glasgow St Thomas County: Lanarkshire Address: Soho Place Parish Number: 644/1 Household Members: Name Age Archibald Mckeehan 30 Isabella Mckeehan 30 Margaret Mckeehan 7 Finlay Mckeehan 5 John Mckeehan 3 Catherine Mckeehan 7 Mo
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ArgyllGran
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1 Feb 2016 21:21 |
Possibly her death:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Margaret Hudspeth Birth: abt 1834 Death: Jan 1876 - Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Feb 2016 21:22 |
so Robert died in March quarter 1880
and Margaret died March quarter 1876
is that correct?
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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 21:22 |
thank you
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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 21:23 |
thank you
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Pauline
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1 Feb 2016 21:28 |
Yes Sylvia that's correct
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ArgyllGran
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1 Feb 2016 21:30 |
Yes, that Margaret, daughter of Archibald and Isabella, will be the correct one.
In 1881 the younger Hudspeth children (except Septimus, who died in infancy) are living with their older sister Isabella and her husband John Minikin:
Isabella C. Minikin in the 1881 England Census Name: Isabella C. Minikin Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: John Minikin Gender: Female Where born: Newcastle On Tyne Civil Parish: Newcastle on Tyne All Sts County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 7 Union St Marital Status: Married Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5064 Folio: 24 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age John Minikin 26 Isabella C. Minikin 23 Robert Minikin 4 John W. Minikin John A.R. Hudspeth 21 William R. Hudspeth 16 Findley McKichan Hudspeth 15 Humphrey Currey Hudspeth 19 Mary Liddle 17
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) Hudspeth Isabella Cummin Newcastle T. 10b 34 Minikin John Newcastle T. 10b 34
Births Sep 1857 (>99%) Hudspeth Isabella Cumming Newcastle Tyne 10b 90
Isabella was named after her grandmother - Margaret's mother, Isabella Cumming.
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Eringobragh1916
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1 Feb 2016 23:02 |
I wonder if this is brother to Margaret..unusual surname and only one at that time in Ncle.
Name Archibald Mckichan Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Newcastle, St Andrew, Northumberland, England Enumeration District 11 Gender Male Age 39 Marital Status Married Occupation Undertaker Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1832 Birthplace Scotland Entry Number 6 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5086/0163
Wife is Hannah 39 b Scotland....Archie has died by 1881 and Hannah is down as Lodging Hoose keeper..no children.
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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2016 15:45 |
This might be her brother Finlay (aged 5 at 1841 census above):
Finlay Mackichan in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: Finlay Mackichan Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relationship: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, lanarksh Parish Number: 504 Civil Parish: Ardchattan Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Argyll Address: Ardantennie Occupation: Sailor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED: 3 Page: 12 Household schedule number: 47 LINE: 12 Roll: CSSCT1851_108 Household Members: Name Age Archd MacHeriach 70 Christian MacHeriach 62 Duncan MacHeriach 32 Peter MacHeriach 28 Dugald MacHeriach 26 Ann MacHeriach 22 Donald MacHeriach 20 Finlay Mackichan 15
Finlay McKickan in the 1871 Scotland Census Name: Finlay McKickan Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 455 Registration district: Saline Civil Parish: Vessels County: Fife Address: Glasgow L'pool Occupation: Master <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED: Galloway Household schedule number: 1 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_191
Finlay McKichan in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 Name: Finlay McKichan Estimated Age: 29 Birth Date: 1836 Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Issue Date: 23 Mar 1865 (Mate, Home Trade) Issue Port: Glasgow Certificate Number: 100.906
Finlay McKichan in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 Name: Finlay McKichan Estimated Age: 29 Birth Date: 1836 Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Issue Date: 25 Nov 1865 (Mate, Home Trade)) Issue Port: Glasgow Certificate Number: 101003
Finlay McKichan in the UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 Name: Finlay McKichan Estimated Age: 34 Birth Date: 1836 Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Issue Date: 27 Apr 1870 (Master) Issue Port: Glasgow Certificate Number: 101003
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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2016 15:49 |
Re Archibald, suggested by Eringobragh;
ScotlandsPeople doesn't show him as a son of Archibald and Isabella, 1830-41 - for what that's worth!
This is the only Archibald McKichan (or variant spelling) showing up on SP around 1832 - although there are so many possible variants of the name that SP's probably not picking up on all of them:
11/08/1831 MCKICHAN ARCHIBALD ARCHIBALD MCKICHAN/ANN SINCLAIR FR208 (FR208) M KILBRANDON AND KILCHATTAN /ARGYLL 515/00 0020 0043
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