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Also, children's mother might not have been dead ............. I have found children in the workhouse when mother was still alive. In that case, she had abandoned them.

don't forget that parts of the 1851 census were water damaged during storage

The Manchester and Lancashire Family History Society recovered tens of thousands of names working on a small scale to prove the technology. Ancestry.com used forensic and photographic techniques on a large scale to take names from records, which are unreadable by the naked eye because of mold and water damage. The process yielded abt 165,000 names that weren’t previously available.

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many of mine were "lost" until fairly recently

The rootsweb link eliminates the Ann Platt who died in 1845 & the one in 1851 which leaves as another possible, the one in West Derby reg district in 1846

Yes it was Platt not Barrett sorry and yes its the same person I have been helping 3 children survived the eldest John went to Australia and he brought his two younger brother over there..John was the informant on his dad Thomas Platt's death 15 Gore St North which became Stanley Rd from Kirkdale to Bootle..

Thanks for all your imput Colette

Collette...The Death Cert you PMd to me states the informant was from Ireland and St Martins from what I can make out...and I would have to say I read the address as Garry St.

EDIT...No Platt/Platts buried either Regular or Paupers grave in St Anthony's..a few children and couple of Adults but none that matches yours.

Were they the people you were helping on rootsweb links I posted above, they seem to have a lot of info?...

(By 1851 census she has disappeared, and strangely enough so has John
(who is my 3rd great grandfather)

Chris :)

found it?

Thos Platt 35 - shoemaker
Ann Platt 30
John Platt 13
Thos Platt 3
Joseph Platt 7 Mo

If this is right I think it say both thomas & Ann were born in Ireland

I only have access to what is online. If the 2 sons were in the workhouse then it is possible that Ann was buried in a paupers grave.

Please can you post the 1841 census as I can't seem to find it on ancestry.

Should we not be looking for Ann Platt not Ann Barrett?

Hi Ann we found Thomas Platt's burial it was in St Mary's Kirkdale we are stuck on his wife's now..their two youngest sons ended up in the West Derby Workhouse Everton by 1851 so Ann must have also died..we were so lucky on Thomas's burial it named his folks,there was another man named Hugh Platt living in the same street as Thomas so I followed him and found he was born in Denbighshire Wales..found his baptism then found Thomas's, the lady I was helping had a brickwall for 16 years..she found more of his siblings and has a brood now haha..the wife Ann Barrett is another problem born c1811 where we don't know not in Lancashire looks like it is an S on the 1841 only clue we have is on her daughter Elizabeth's baptism 1830 godparents are Joseph & Elizabeth Barrett.

Looked at Lancashire Burials on Ancestry as they have some for Liverpool and my sub lets me see those there are a couple on Ann Barretts burials but neither were her I don't have access to the Liverpool records if you do would you mind looking...

Thank you Colette

I would not have thought St Martin in the Field was right. Their burials for that period appear to be on line and there is no Platt. Also it is Cof E and you said in your other post that the family were RC.

As the children appear to have been baptised at St Anthony's or St Peters Priory one of those could be possible but I can't find any records online.

We have worked it out now it was 15 Gore Street North which was in the St Martins District there was a Gore St in Toxteth too but the North makes it right..still don't know where this guy is buried St Martin in the fields could be the place..

Colette

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-LIVERPOOL/2008-04/1208418811

(not Thomas on above was it?, 1845. Asthma)


20 March 1845 - Gore's Liverpool General Advertiser - Liverpool, Merseyside

Death
On Tuesday, the 11th instant, aged 40, Mr. Thomas Platt, boot and shoemaker, this town.

Chris :)

(also another from google search)

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-LIVERPOOL/2009-06/1246052482

(in 1845 at the time of death the address listed is 15 Garry Street, North Liverpool.)

Hi he lived in the St Martins district problem is we cannot make out his address,the lady who owns the cert said it was Garry St tillI said lets look to me it looks like Stone St or Gore St but Gore St was in Toxteth.

Collette.. Liverpool's a Big City do you know what area...?

Hi wanting a look-up for two burials in Liverpool Ann Platt born c 1811 died 1840s Thomas Platt born c 1805 died 1845..

Thank you ColetteB