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sorry i meant the question in direct reply to the last comment re Harriet and her husband george and son charles xxxxx

Is 1841 what you meant?
PollyPoppet has already posted one version of the 1841 census.

Here's Ancestry's transcription:

Anne Butler
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Anne Butler
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: St Benedict
Hundred: Lincoln
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln Home
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 651
Book: 1
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
James Butler 60
Sarah Butler 60
Hannah Butler 15
Anne Butler 5
George Butler 3

can't see any of them on the 1841 though?

oooooooooooooh thanks chris!! having kids out of wedlock seems to be a theme in this family grrrrrrrrrrrr at least they stuck with st benedicts lol xx

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name St Benedict
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 290
Baptism date 16 Nov 1828
Person forename Charles Stead
Person sex M
Person abode Lincoln, St Benedict
Father occupation Servant
Mother forename Harriet
Mother surname BUTLER


County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name St Swithin
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 282
Marriage date 6 Apr 1829
Groom forename George
Groom surname STEAD
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode St Swithin
Bride forename Harriet
Bride surname BUTLER
Bride condition Spinster
Bride abode St Benedict, Lincoln
Witness1 forename James
Witness1 surname BUTLER
Witness2 forename Caroline
Witness2 surname BUTLER
Notes Married in this Church by John Carter, Minister.

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Chris :)

only outstanding info i can see is who is the parents of ann butler b1836, i would have thought it was caroline but i can't see anything to prove it xxx

OMG i hardly know where to start THANK YOU ALL for the lovely info i will slowly work my way through it. sadly due to an eye condition i can't be on the computer for very long at a time so if i don't rely straight away that's why xxxxxxxx thank you again Helenxx

(Ashlin or Asplin?)

Lincolnshire Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) JAMES
Last name BUTLER
Marriage year 1805
Marriage day 13
Marriage month May
Parish Hackthorn
Spouse's first name(s) SARAH
Spouse's last name ASHLIN
Deanery Lawres
County Lincolnshire

Chris :)

16 December 1859 - Lincolnshire Chronicle - Lincoln, Lincolnshire,

Death
In St. Benedict's, Lincoln, on the 12th inst., James Butler, labourer, aged 80.


31 May 1867 - Stamford Mercury - Stamford, Lincolnshire, England

Death
In St. Benedict's, on the 27th inst, Sarah Butler, widow, aged 82.


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name Canwick Road Cemetery
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 15 Dec 1859
Person age 79
Burial person forename James
Burial person surname BUTLER
Burial person abode St Benedict,Waterside South


Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Lincoln
Church name Canwick Road Cemetery
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 30 May 1867
Person age 82
Burial person forename Sarah
Burial person surname BUTLER
Burial person abode Meanwells Court,St Benedict

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edits
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=576527&iid=568396

(1805 Marriage on above)

http://www.lincstothepast.com/

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Harriet Butler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 20 Oct 1805
Baptism Place: Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 504565


Name: Caroline Butler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 17 Dec 1809
Baptism Place: Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 504565


Name: James Butler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Sep 1817
Baptism Place: Saint Benedict,Lincoln,Lincoln,England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 436036, 504560, 508003


Name: Blyth Ashlin Butler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Dec 1819
Baptism Place: St. Benedict, Lincoln, Lincoln, England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 1542050
Reference ID: p 18


Name: Hannah Butler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 24 Feb 1824
Baptism Place: St. Benedict, Lincoln, Lincoln, England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 1542050
Reference ID: p 27


???? did the above Hannah died??

Name: Hannah Butler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 24 Feb 1825
Baptism Place: Saint Benedict,Lincoln,Lincoln,England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 436036, 504560, 508003



and ??? this one???

Name: Elizabeth Butler
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1808
Baptism Place: Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England
Death Date: 1 Feb 1809
Father: James Butler
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 504565




all from ancestry

I'll get the details in a moment ..............


Harriet Butler 20 Oct 1805 Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England James, Sarah

Caroline Butler 17 Dec 1809 Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England James, Sarah

James Butler 26 Sep 1817 Saint Benedict,Lincoln,Lincoln,England James, Sarah

Blyth Ashlin Butler 20 Dec 1819 St. Benedict, Lincoln, Lincoln, England James, Sarah

Hannah Butler 24 Feb 1824 St. Benedict, Lincoln, Lincoln, England James, Sarah

Hannah Butler 24 Feb 1825 Saint Benedict,Lincoln,Lincoln,England James,
Sarah



???????
Elizabeth Butler 9 Dec 1808 Saint Peter Eastgate,Lincoln,Lincoln,England James, Sarah

Just wondering about this one, although later baptisms give James' occupation as a Labourer or Servant

Place Gainsborough
Church name All Saints
Register type
Baptism date 1 Apr 1812
Person forename Thos
Person sex M
Father forename Jas
Father surname BUTLER
Father occupation Weaver
Mother forename Sarah
Mother surname BUTLER

Blythe whom you know about.
Place Lincoln
Church name St Benedict
Register type
Register entry number 137
Baptism date 20 Dec 1819
Person forename Blyth Ashlin
Person sex M
Person abode Lincoln, St Benedict
Father forename James
Father surname BUTLER
Father occupation Servant
Mother forename Sarah

The missing James?
Place Lincoln
Church name St Benedict
Register type
Register entry number 92
Baptism date 26 Sep 1817
Person forename James
Person sex M
Person abode Lincoln, St Benedict
Father forename James
Father surname BUTLER
Father occupation Servant
Mother forename Sarah

Would this be Hannah's?
Place Lincoln
Church name St Benedict
Register type
Register entry number 216
Baptism date 24 Feb 1825
Person forename Hannah
Person sex F
Person abode Lincoln, St Benedict
Father forename James
Father surname BUTLER
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah

All from http://www.freereg.org.uk/search_queries/new

In case you do not have it, James was apparently baptised in 1781


England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: James Butler
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 18 Aug 1781
Baptism Place: All Saints, Gainsborough, Lincoln, England
Father: James Butler
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 1450407
Reference ID: item 1

if that is your family ... and I should wait for confirmation ...

and if you don't know the parents of young Anne and George it might be worth finding out in case one of the two missing persons were their parent

okay George was Caroline's son, so that doesn't help
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF92-QYP

and PollyPoppet does have the right household, this is it in 1851
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKVD-NF51

James Butler Head M 70 Gainsbro, Lincolnshire
Sarah Butler Wife F 68 , Lincoln
Blyth Ashlin Butler Son M 29 , Lincoln
Ann Butler Grand Daughter F 15 , Lincoln

if that is the family

then for convenient reference (minus all the repetition and scrolling), the household is

James Butler 1781 Lincolnshire
Sarah Butler 1781 Lincolnshire
Hannah Butler 1826 Lincolnshire
Anne Butler 1836 Lincolnshire
George Butler 1838 Lincolnshire

you have

Caroline b1812
* James b1817
Blyth Ashlin b1819
* Hannah b1824/5

(* info sought about)

I would think that Hannah was on the outside limit for being a child of Sarah, and the other two, Anne and George, were grandchildren?


if that is them, at least we do know that Hannah survived to 1841 :-)

do you know that James did in fact, and if so is there a census record?

Hi is this the family in 1841


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census



Household Information

Street South Waterside
Parish St Benedict
City Lincoln
County Lincolnshire
Country England
House Number
House Name
Registration District Lincoln
Town
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain

Person 1

First Name Anne
Last Name Butler
Birth Year 1836
Age 5
Birth County Lincolnshire
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 14
Page 22
Piece Number 651

Person 2

First Name George
Last Name Butler
Birth Year 1838
Age 3
Birth County Lincolnshire
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 14
Page 22
Piece Number 651

Person 3

First Name Hannah
Last Name Butler
Birth Year 1826
Age 15
Birth County Lincolnshire
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 14
Page 22
Piece Number 651

Person 4

First Name James
Last Name Butler
Birth Year 1781
Age 60
Birth County Lincolnshire
Gender Male
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 14
Page 22
Piece Number 651

Person 5

First Name Sarah
Last Name Butler
Birth Year 1781
Age 60
Birth County Lincolnshire
Gender Female
Occupation
Archive Reference HO107
Book 1
Folio 14
Page 22
Piece Number 651

HI i'm trying to find the children of James Butler b1870-1859 gainsborough lincolnshire and his wife Sarah Asplin b1785-1867 lincolnshire. They married 1805 Hackthorn lincolnshire. the first child i can find for this marriage is 1812 ??? there must be some prior to this?
Caroline b1812 i have her details!!!!
James b1817
Blyth Ashlin b1819 i have his details!!
Hannah b1824/5
please could someone help me find james and hannah and also any children born pre 1812. many thanks helenx