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Edwin
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7 Jan 2016 08:33 |
I have 2 Joseph Dwight's in my tree The Joseph in the subject line's father and mother were James Dwight 1785 m. 1811 Sophia Cock 1794 They had 7 children that I have identified. The other Joseph was born 1826 to William Dwight 1780 and Elizabeth Jordan could anybody help in unravelling this dilemma. It seems that this Joseph was married to Mary Ann Pritchard did they have any children/ :-(
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LondonBelle
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7 Jan 2016 08:55 |
Is this the Marriage you are referring to?
Date 13 Feb 1859 Parish Church Harrow Middlesex Groom Joseph Dwight Age 25 Bachelor occ Labourer Father Richard Dwight occ Labourer Bride Mary Ann Pritchard Age 26 Spinster Father James Pritchard occ Labourer Abode for both Sudbury
Not sure what connection you are looking for as they appear to be two different people based upon the info you have provided
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Edwin
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7 Jan 2016 09:06 |
The marriage for William & Elizabeth Jordan was in 1808 Info on their son Josephb. 1826 who was m Mary Ann Pritchard
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LondonBelle
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7 Jan 2016 09:19 |
The only marriage I can find is the one I have given but the Father is Richard Dwight and the age of that Joseph is 25 born c 1834.
Where and when do you think your marriage of Joseph Dwight & Mary Ann Pritchard took place?
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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7 Jan 2016 12:31 |
Is this your Joseph?
Name: Joseph Dwight Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Dwight Gender: Male Where born: Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Chesham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Hundridge County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Amersham Sub-registration district: Chesham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 11 Piece: 1393 Folio: 77 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Dwight 45 Mary Dwight 39 Margaret Dwight 18 Wm Dwight 11 Sarah Dwight 9 Kate Dwight 3 George F Dwight 1
This looks like their marriage
Name: Joseph Dwight Registration Year: 1854 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Amersham Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: 3a Page: 412 Records on Page: Name Edwin Bates Mary Bates Mary Darvell************** Joseph Dwight **************
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Jan 2016 14:52 |
1871 (Find My Past) Joseph Dwight Head - Male 31 1840 (Labourer)- Buckinghamshire, England Mary Ann Dwight Wife - Female 32 1839 - Middlesex, England (Pinner) Mary Ann Dwight Daughter - Female 7 1864 - London, Middlesex, England Street Golborne Gardens Parish Kensington County London, Middlesex Registration district Kensington Archive reference RG10 Piece number 47 Folio 63 Page 44
(perhaps the other)
Chris :)
1851 (Find My Past) (Reference to James, Sophia) James Dwight Head Married Male 66 1785 Ag. Lab. Buckinghamshire, England Sophia Dwight Wife Married Female 57 1794 - Buckinghamshire, England Ann Dwight Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1828 Plaiter Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England Joseph Dwight Son Unmarried Male 25 1826 Bricklayer Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England Mary Dwight Daughter Unmarried Female 17 1834 Plaiter Frogmore, Buckinghamshire, England County Buckinghamshire Parish Chesham Hamlet Hundridge Registration district Amersham Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1717 Folio 185 Page 6
(are they your past queries relating, coming up on google?)
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Edwin
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10 Jan 2016 09:39 |
Londonbelle and Chris Ho Thanks for your input Joseph Dwight and Mary Ann Pritchard from what I could find were married in Hendon Volume 3a. Page 89 Joseph b.Buckinghamshire not sure where Mary Ann was born Chris if Joseph was b 1840 who were his parents :-)
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JoonieCloonie
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10 Jan 2016 17:43 |
Edwin, you're not helping us, because you aren't responding to all the info posted :-)
Londonbelle posted the details of the marriage of Joseph Dwight and Mary Ann Pritchard, 1859 Hendon
those details show that >> that Joseph's father was *Richard Dwight* >> by his stated age, that Joseph was born around 1834
that Richard Dwight very likely married Lydia Langstone 1829 Wendover
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJJM-TZS
and their son Joseph was born 1838 Great Missenden (he may have made himself older when he married because his wife was older)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWNR-N9F
you are looking for info about a Joseph born 1826 whose father was *William Dwight* (I think ... I am getting confused and I can't figure out where a James Dwight comes into this)
the Joseph who married Mary Ann Pritchard >> was born 1838, not 1826 >> was the son of a Richard Dwight, not the son of a William Dwight as Londonbelle posted at the very beginning
Joseph 1838 son of Richard is the one in the 1871 census married to Mary Ann, born c1840
Mel and Chris posted information about a Joseph Dwight who married Mary Darvell, 1854 Amersham
that Joseph seems to have been the son of a James Dwight, 1785 Buckinghamshire, and Sophia, as on the 1851 census posted:
James Dwight 1785 Sophia Dwight 1794 Ann Dwight 1828 Joseph Dwight 1826 Mary Dwight 1834 County Buckinghamshire Parish Chesham Hamlet Hundridge Registration district Amersham
where are William Dwight 1780 and Elizabeth Jordan?
what record do you have of them having a son Joseph?
you say you have this younger Joseph 'in your tree' ... what does that mean? how do you relate to him?
your statement:
'The marriage for William & Elizabeth Jordan was in 1808 Info on their son Joseph b. 1826 who was m Mary Ann Pritchard'
seems to be incorrect as the Joseph who married Pritchard had father Richard, according to the marriage record, and was much younger, according to the marriage record and censuses
for children of William and Elizabeth, familysearch.org shows
Charlotte 1815 Chesham there is also a Mary 1820 Chesham no parents shown
they married in 1808 so of course they likely had earlier and/or later children not shown there
Chris Ho, what google search finds earlier queries, and where? ... since Edwin isn't answering that either :-)
ah, one here
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1302067
but that's too many Dwights for me
in that thread, jax posted the 1861 census for a Joseph and Mary couple in Chesham who actually look like Joseph Dwight and Mary Darvell, going by the ages of the children, for an 1854 marriage
Joseph Dwight 34 (c1827) Mary Dwight 29 Elizabeth Dwight 5 Margarett Dwight 3 William Dwight 1
is that the Joseph you are asking about here???
Edwin if you know that is the Joseph you are interested in, why not give that info to people trying to help?
you're the one who said he married Mary Ann Pritchard but that was simply a guess, and it seems to be completely incorrect
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Edwin
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16 Jan 2016 03:38 |
All you helpfull people at genes who have been trying to help me yes I have Joseph Dwight m. Mary Darvell and all their Children that I can confirm okay. As for Richard Dwight m. Lydia Langstone that I have but in the 1851 census Richard was absent and the children I could find were Ann 1830 George 1834 then initials H1839 daughter and E daughter 1842 In 11861 it shows Richard 50 Lydia 49 with a son Richard 10 no sign of Joseph unless it is in another record that I have not been able to access
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Edwin
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16 Jan 2016 03:39 |
All you helpfull people at genes who have been trying to help me yes I have Joseph Dwight m. Mary Darvell and all their Children that I can confirm okay. As for Richard Dwight m. Lydia Langstone that I have but in the 1851 census Richard was absent and the children I could find were Ann 1830 George 1834 then initials H1839 daughter and E daughter 1842 In 11861 it shows Richard 50 Lydia 49 with a son Richard 10 no sign of Joseph unless it is in another record that I have not been able to access <3 <
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Jan 2016 04:13 |
I assume this is the 1851 Census that you are referring to?? I post this because I am confused with what you state in your post above
1851 Census
Name: Lydia Dwight Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Wendover, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Stratton St Margaret Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England
Registration district: Highworth Sub-registration district: Highworth ED, institution, or vessel: 14a
Household schedule number: 64 Piece: 1833 Folio: 230 Page Number: 18
Lydia Dwight 40 Rail Lab Wife G Dwight 17 H Dwight 12 E Dwight 7 Mary Dwight 4 William Green 24 son-i-law A Green 21 daughter
Address:- Upper Stratton
On the image of the census there is a note ............... Head Absent
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Jan 2016 04:18 |
and I assume this is the 1861 Census
1861 Census
Name: Lydia Dwight Age: 49 Estimated birth year: 1812 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Richard Dwight Gender: Female Where born: Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Kensington County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 557 Piece: 14 Folio: 140 Page Number: 31
Richard Dwight 50 Railway Labourer Lydia Dwight 49 Richard Dwight 10
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Jan 2016 04:20 |
Now, WHICH Joseph can you not find, and in which census?
Is it Joseph b.ca 1785 or Joseph b.ca 1826, or Joseph b ca 1834?
Have you found the 1841 Census for Richard and Lydia??
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Edwin
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17 Jan 2016 00:45 |
Hi SylviainCanada, previosly Londonbelle posted Joseph c1835 was the son of Richard Prior to that she had that Joseph m. Mary Ann Pritchard13/02/1859 Harrow that is the joseph I am looking for. No Have not found 1841 census for Richard & Lydia :-)
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