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1 Jan 2016 01:56 |
Could someone please check these two censuses I have found a Caroline Coopey born March qtr 1841 in the district of Wheatenhurst Gloustershire on both of them and would like to know who she was living with etc. didn't see her on any others so I'm guessing she must of left for New Zealand before the 1861? Any help much appreciated :-)
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1 Jan 2016 04:07 |
There are some local indexes at: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd We're interested in: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry COOPEY Caroline COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1841 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 1 334 COOPEY Isaac George COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1842 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 1 472 COOPEY Joseph COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1844 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 2 170 COOPEY Mary Ann COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1846 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 2 396 COOPEY Sarah COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1849 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 3 125 COOPEY Emele COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 3 290 COOPEY William COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1854 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 4 245 COOPEY Elizabeth COOPEY COOPEY SHILL 1854 Gloucester Gloucester, Haresfield 4 246 [Wm & Liz are twins - adjacent entry #s]
Surname Given Names Age Year Died District Register Entry COOPEY William 6 1843 Gloucester, Haresfield 1 314 COOPEY William 4m 1854 Gloucester, Haresfield 3 37 COOPEY Elizabeth 1 1855 Gloucester, Haresfield 3 81
You can search many of the censuses via: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
1841 is OK, but 1851 is not useful yet - transcription is FMP/GR's, not Ancestry's
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7M7-YZQ Joseph Coopey M 35-39 Gloucestershire Mary Coopey F 30-34 Ireland Ester Coopey F 11 Gloucestershire Richard Coopey M 6 Gloucestershire Willam Coopey M 4 Gloucestershire Benjamin Coopey M 2 Gloucestershire Caroline Coopey F 3 months Gloucestershire
I don't know when Wheatenhurst (aka Whitminster) was a registration subdistrict, but it wasn't one in 1861 (nor 1911). Here's a look up at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ for the 1861 piece #s in Wheatenhurst RD
Reference: RG 9/1769 Description: Registration Sub-District 1 Haresfield. Parish: Longney. Parish: Hardwicke (7). Parish: Brookthorpe. Parish: Harescomb. Parish: Haresfield. Parish: Standish; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Moreton-Valence; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Wheatenhurst (8); Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770).
Reference: RG 9/1770 Description: Registration Sub-District 2 Frampton. Parish: Saul; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Arlingham; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Fretherne; Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Frampton-upon-Severn. Parish: Eastington; Hamlet: Alkerton; Hamlet: Eastington (3); Hamlet: Framilode (part) (Divided between RG 9/1769 and 1770). Parish: Frocester.
In 1851, all of Wheatenhurst RD is covered by one piece #, viz ho107/1963 I searched for Coopey in piece 1963 on Ancestry, and found who you'ld expect (except Ester is absent). I also found a slightly older couple - Wm & Caroline, so maybe your lass is named after her aunt.
I DON'T HAVE ANY SUB - MAYBE SOMEONE CAN POST THESE TWO 1851 H/H'S (WITH P.O.B.'S)
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1 Jan 2016 05:41 |
1841 Census
Name: Caroline Coopey Age: 3 Mo Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Gender: Female Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Hardwicke Hundred: Whitstone (Lower Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Wheatenhurst Sub-registration district: Haresfield
Piece: 370 Book: 9 Folio: 18 Page Number: 12
Joseph Coopey 35 b.ca 1806, Gloucestershire, Labourer Mary Coopey 30 b.ca 1811, Gloucestershire Ester Coopey 11 b.ca 1830, Gloucestershire Richard Coopey 6 b.ca 1835, Gloucestershire William Coopey 4 b.ca 1837, Gloucestershire Benjamin Coopey 2 b.ca 1839, Gloucestershire Caroline Coopey 3 Mo
1851 Census
Name: Caroline Coopey Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Coopey Mother's name: Mary Coopey Gender: Female Where born: Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Hardwicke Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Wheatenhurst Sub-registration district: Haresfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 1963 Folio: 33 Page Number: 23
Joseph Coopey 45 b.ca 1806, Badgworth, Gloucestershire, Labourer Mary Coopey 41 b.ca 1810, Badgworth, Gloucestershire Richard Coopey 16 b.ca 1835, Miserdine, Gloucestershire Benjamin Coopey 12 b.ca 1839, Hardwicke, Gloucestershire Caroline Coopey 10 Isaac Coopey 8 b.ca 1843, Hardwicke Joseph Coopey 6 b.ca 1845, Hardwicke Mary Coopey 4 b.ca 1847, Hardwicke Sarah Coopey 2 b.ca 1849, Hardwicke Emily Coopey 6 Mo b.ca 1850, Hardwicke
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1 Jan 2016 05:45 |
and this also looks like Caroline in 1861
1861 Census
Name: Caroline Coopey Age: 20 Estimated birth year: 1841 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Cheltenham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Household schedule number: 189 Piece: 1802 Folio: 122 Page Number: 40
Alfred Sanders 26 General Practitioner (doctor) Francis Sanders 26 Caroline Wheeler 54 Caroline Coopey 20 Domestic Servant
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1 Jan 2016 05:46 |
Looks like Caroline Coopey was born in Hardwicke, Gloucestershire which is in the Registration District of Wheatenhurst.
Details on Baptism Register as follows
Name Caroline Coopey Birth Date 14 Mar 1841 Baptism Date 11 Apr 1841 Father Joseph occ Labourer Mother Mary Ann Abode Hardwicke
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Jan 2016 05:49 |
In case you don't have this ................
Gloucestershire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1913
Name: Caroline Coopey Birth Date: 14 Mar 1841 Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1841 Parish: Hardwicke, Gloucestershire, England Father: Joseph Coopey Mother: Mary Ann Coopey Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
from image:-
Address:- Hardwicke Father occupation:- Labourer
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Jan 2016 05:53 |
It looks as though she married before she left England???????????
from freebmd
Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Coopey Caroline Droitwich 6c 393 Corpey Caroline Droitwich 6c 393 Wright John William Droitwich 6c 393
1871 Census
Name: Caroline Wright Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Wright Gender: Female Where born: Hardwick, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Barton St Mary Town: Barton St Mary County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: South Hamlet ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Household schedule number: 108 Piece: 2623 Folio: 16 Page Number: 26
William Wright 30 b.ca 1841, Sheepscombe, Gloucestershire, Butcher Caroline Wright 30 Annie Wright 9 Agnes Wright 7 Frank Wright 5 James Wright 2
Address:- Ducie Street
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1 Jan 2016 06:03 |
from FindMyPast
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
First name(s) Caroline Last name Coopey Name note - Marriage year 1862 Marriage date 09 Mar 1862 Marriage place Claines Spouse's first name(s) John William Spouse's last name Wright County Worcestershire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Life Events (BDMs) Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from United Kingdom
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1 Jan 2016 06:07 |
There is a Transcript of the Marriage Sylvia has given above Groom. John William Wright Bride Caroline Coopey Date 09 Mar 1862 Place Claines, Worcestershire No other relevant details
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1 Jan 2016 06:13 |
???baptisms of children of John William Wright and Caroline (nee Coopey)
Caroline Agnes Lucy Wright 13 Mar 1864 Cheltenham, St Mary John William, Caroline
Frank William Wright 21 Feb 1866 Painswick John William, Caroline
James Joseph Wright 6 Sep 1868 Prestbury John William, Caroline
Albert Charles Wright 12 Nov 1871 Gloucester, St James John William, Caroline
John Edward Wright 25 Jan 1874 Gloucester, St James John William, Caroline
Annie Wright was born ca 1862, Worcestershire, and I can't see her baptism??
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Jan 2016 06:33 |
According to several Public Family Trees, John William Wright died on 26 May 1878 Woolston, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
and they had two more children ............
Richard Henry Wright born in 1876, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Arthur George Wright born on 4 Jun 1878, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Annie Wright may have been called Mary Annie
From the dates of the births of the children, John William and caroline must ahve left England between 1874 and 1876
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1 Jan 2016 06:40 |
One Public Family tree gives this information for the emigration for John William, Caroline and Family ........... I have not found this, maybe someone else can find the reference
Emigration 1874 to Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
Travelled with his family on the vessel "Moropa". Moved to Christchurch and bought a small farm.
John William died 26th May 1878, Woolston, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, of Enteric Fever and Pneumonia.
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1 Jan 2016 06:53 |
mgnv did ask about a second Wm and Caroline Coopey
This is what I found
1851 Census
Name: Caroline Coopey Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1802 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Coopey Gender: Female Where born: Haresfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Haresfield Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Wheatenhurst Sub-registration district: Haresfield ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 1963 Folio: 74 Page Number: 12
William Coopey 52 b.ca 1799, Cam Psh, Gloucestershire, Ag Lab Caroline Coopey 49 Ester Buller 12 Niece George Arvey 25 Lodger
and this one
Name: Caroline Coopey Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Coopey Mother's name: Mary Coopey Gender: Female Where born: Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Dursley Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Dursley County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Dursley Sub-registration district: Wotton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Household schedule number: 69 Piece: 1958 Folio: 362 Page Number: 17
Joseph Coopey 48 Mary Coopey 48 Mary Ann Coopey 20 Caroline Coopey 18 Eliza Coopey 14 Elizabeth Coopey 11 Hannah Coopey 7
The Coopeys may well all be related, but who knows???????
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1 Jan 2016 06:57 |
I wonder if it is at all possible that this is Annie Wright, and that John William and Caroline said they were married before they actually were ???
England Births and Christenings
Name Mary Ann Wright Gender Female Christening Date 08 Dec 1861 Christening Place St Paul's, Worcester, Worcester, England Birth Date 17 Oct 1861 Father's Name John Wright Mother's Name Caroline Wright
There is no further information ...... so no way to tell whether this John Wright is a Butcher!
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1 Jan 2016 07:14 |
Possible bap of Father, Joseph
Name Joseph Coopey Bap Date 20 0ct 1805 Father William occ Labourer Mother Hester Abode Shurdington, Gloucestershire Register Type Bishop's Transcript
Possible Burial
Name Joseph Coopey Date 22 Nov 1867 Age 62 Abode Badgworth, Gloucestershire
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1 Jan 2016 07:39 |
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Acaroline~%20%2Bsurname%3Awright~&collection_id=1609792
Caroline Wright New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists Name Caroline Wright Event Type Immigration Event Date 27 Sep 1874 Event Place Canterbury, New Zealand Gender Female Nationality Gloucestershire Departure Date 1874 Arrival Port Canterbury Arrival Place Canterbury
travelling on the 'Merope' with William Wright 33 Mary Ann 15 Agnes L 13 Frank W 10 James J 6 Albert C 3 John E 4 months
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Jan 2016 07:46 |
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=225800.0
(above seems to relate to Coopey/Wright)
Chris :)
http://tinyurl.com/hvhaxus
(if Martin Bergman relating)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
(NZ Newspapers)
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1 Jan 2016 07:58 |
Wow thank you so much all of you now it's known Caroline did marry and come out to NZ as a married woman and not with her parents etc. A big thank you and wish you all a very happy new year :-)
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