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Rodney
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30 Dec 2015 07:49 |
Hi my name is Rod Crocker, I'm an Aussie looking for distant ancestors. I'm looking for information on Thomas Noble, Born in 1809 in Batcombe. Married Anne ? ( maybe Barnard) she was about 1 year older than Thomas, and was born in Wickwar Gloucestershire in 1808. They settled in Bath and had about 8 Children there. What I'm looking for in particular is Thomas's parents, Record of his Baptism, His marriage record for correct name of wife. and death records for him and his wife. Any clues or information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Rod Crocker
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Dec 2015 07:59 |
(no idea if below, just adding!)
Chris :)
Baptism County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Baptism date 01 Jan 1804 Person forename Thos Person sex M Father forename David Father surname NOBLE Mother forename Elizabeth
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above link)
Bath Birth indexes for the years: 1839
NOBLE Alfred Walcot - First Series Bath (Mother Maiden Name) BARNARD WL1/2/099
Bath Birth indexes for the years: 1840
NOBLE Edward Walcot - First Series Bath BARNARD WL1/3/260
http://www.bathbmd.org.uk/index.php
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Gee
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30 Dec 2015 08:42 |
This appears to fit with your info
1851 Thomas Noble <<Tailor
Age:42
Estimated birth year:abt 1809
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ann Noble
Gender:Male
Where born:Batcombe, Somerset, England
Civil Parish:Walcot
Ecclesiastical parish:St Swithin
County/Island:Somerset
Registration district:Bath
Sub-registration district:Lyncombe
ED, institution, or vessel:1d Household schedule number:48 Piece:1942 Folio:412 Page Number:9
Thomas Noble 42 Ann Noble 43 Amelia Noble 16 Louisa Noble 14 Alfred Noble 12 Edward Noble 10 J A Noble 8 Ellen Noble 5 Henry A Noble 2
Deaths Mar 1854 Noble Thomas Keynsham 5c 526
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LondonBelle
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30 Dec 2015 09:03 |
1841 Census Walcot, Bath
Thomas 30 Tailor Ann 30 Emma 10 Amelia 7 Louisa 4 Alfred 2 Edward 6mths George Barnard 15 Apprentice
All born in County apart from Ann Noble & George Barnard
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Gee
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30 Dec 2015 09:23 |
This looks like the George that LB posted above
Name:George Barnard
Baptism Date:9 Jun 1826
Parish:Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears:Wickwar
Father: Isaac Barnard
Mother: Sophia Barnard
Register Type:Parish Registers
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Dea
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30 Dec 2015 09:31 |
In viewe of some of the children's middle names being 'Walcot' I was looking for a marriage on either the Noble or Barnard sides to link with Walcot.
Now, Gins info above about Isaac Barnard being married to a Sophia may well link to this marriage:
Isaac Barnard mentioned in the record of Isaac Barnard and Sophia Wenutt Or Werrett Name Isaac Barnard Spouse's Name Sophia Wenutt Or Werrett Event Date 18 May 1806 Event Place St. Sephen, Bristol, Gloucester, England
You will note that there was some uncertainty about her surname which may possibly turn out to be 'Walcot' ??
Dea x
EDIT - Forget the above - it's nonsense !! - see below..... :-S :-(
Dea x
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Gee
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30 Dec 2015 10:16 |
Dea isn't 'Walcot' the place of birth, not a middle name?
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Dea
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30 Dec 2015 10:20 |
Oooohhh Bubbles !!! .........................
Is it really Gins ?? - Silly me !!
I think I will have to have another cup of tea and wake up a bit :-S ;-) :-D
See you in a while................
Dea x
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30 Dec 2015 11:17 |
Ancestry suggests this for Thomas's death:
Thomas Noble in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Thomas Noble Registration Year: 1854 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Keynsham Inferred County: Somerset Volume: 5c Page: 336
He's not with Ann and the family in 1861, but Ann's still listed as married, rather than widowed - doesn't mean she's not widowed, of course:
Ann Noble in the 1861 England Census Name: Ann Noble Age: 53 Estimated birth year: 1808 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Ardwick Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Manchester County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub-registration district: Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Piece: 2868 Folio: 109 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Ann Noble 53 Alfred Noble 22 John Arthur Noble 18 Henry A Noble 12
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ArgyllGran
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30 Dec 2015 11:19 |
She's still listed as married in 1871, but is probably widowed, as she's living as a servant
Ann Noble in the 1871 England Census Name: Ann Noble Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Wotton under Edge Town: Sinwell and Bradley County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Dursley Sub-registration district: Wotton under Edge ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 2591 Folio: 74 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Rogers Porter 27 Ann Noble 63
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30 Dec 2015 11:23 |
Possibly Ann's death. Her son Alfred was living in Chorlton in 1881, so she may have been living with him in her last years.
Ann Noble in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ann Noble Estimated birth year: abt 1807 Registration Year: 1878 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Chorlton Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 478
EDIT: Have just noticed that a tree on Ancestry agrees with that (though info on trees should always be taken with a pinch of salt) - death 4 August 1878. It also gives this as her burial record:
Ann Noble in the Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 Name: Ann Noble Birth Year: abt 1807 Age: 71 Burial Date: 7 Aug 1878 Parish: Ashton Under Lyne, St Peter Parish as it Appears: St Peter, Ashton-Under-Lyne Reference Number: L74/1/3/8 Item Number: 3 Archive Roll: 521
The tree also gives the 1854 Keynsham death for Thomas which I posted above.
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Cynthia
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30 Dec 2015 13:06 |
Welcome to the Community boards Rodney
(I'll let Rodney know how to find his replies) :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Dec 2015 21:18 |
(wonder if below was 1854 Death)
Chris :)
01 April 1854 (Saturday) - Bristol Mercury - Bristol, Bristol, England
Died Lately, at Oldland common, Bitton, Mr. Thomas Noble, formerly of Wick and Abson
(possibly the Thomas below)
1851 (Find My Past) Wick, Wick & Abson, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, Thomas Noble Head Married Male 46 1805 Blacksmith St George's, Gloucestershire, England Ann Noble Wife Married Female 43 1808
(below, perhaps relating to Thomas?)
1841 (Find My Past) David Noble Male 45 1796 Somerset, England (Tailor) Sarah Noble Female 45 1796 Somerset, England Thomas Noble Male 20 1821 Somerset, England Robert Noble Male 15 1826 Somerset, England Elizabeth Noble Female 14 1827 Somerset, England Henry Noble Male 11 1830 Somerset, England David Noble Male 80 1761 Somerset, England (Tailor) Parish or township Nunney County Somerset Registration district Frome Archive reference HO107 Piece number 942 Book number 18 Folio number 21 Page number 4
Baptism County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Baptism date 31 Mar 1793 Person forename David Person sex M Father forename David Father surname NOBLE Mother forename Elizabeth
County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 54 Marriage date 31 Jul 1820 Groom forename David Groom surname NOBLE Groom condition bachelor Groom parish Batcombe Bride forename Sarah Bride surname NOBLE Bride condition spinster Bride parish of this parish Witness1 forename Wm Witness1 surname NOBLE Witness2 forename James Witness2 surname NOBLE Notes Banns
County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Marriage date 16 May 1785 Groom forename David Groom surname NOBLE Groom condition widower Groom parish of this parish Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname BUTT Bride condition spinster Bride parish of this parish Witness1 forename Ann Witness1 surname MILLARD Witness2 forename Giles Witness2 surname VINING Notes Banns
Burial County Somerset Place Nunney Church name All Saints Register type Parish Register Register entry number 605 Burial date 21 Jan 1847 Person age 88 Burial person forename David Burial person surname NOBLE Burial person abode Nunney
(Ann Noble Burial 1878, from below)
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Burial: 7 Aug 1878 St Peter, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England Ann Noble - Age: 71 yrs. Abode: Chorlton on Medlock Buried by: E. Harries Curate Register: Burials 1865 - 1881, Page 449, Entry 3589 Source: LDS Family Search
(Daughters from 1841)
Baptism County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 551 Baptism date 21 Aug 1831 Person forename Emma Person sex F Person abode Castle Cary Father forename Thomas Father surname NOBLE Father occupation Tailor Mother forename Ann
Baptism County Somerset Place Batcombe Church name St Mary the Virgin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 643 Baptism date 30 Aug 1835 Person forename Amelia Augusta Person sex F Person abode Bath Father forename Thomas Father surname NOBLE Father occupation Tailor Mother forename Ann
Baptism County Somerset Place Bath Church name Walcot - St Swithin Register type Transcript Baptism date 25 Jun 1837 Person forename Louisa Person sex F Father forename Thomas Father surname NOBLE
Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------- Johnston Martin Ashton 8d 800 Leech John Ashton 8d 800 McNicholas Hannah Ashton Noble Amelia Augusta Ashton 8d 800
1861 (Find My Past) John Leach Head Married Male 26 1835 Clerk At Machine Work Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England Amelia A Leach Wife - Female 26 1835 - Bath, Somerset, England Charles S Leach Son - Male 0 1861 - Oldham, Lancashire, England Edward Noble Brother In Law Unmarried Male 20 1841 Iron Molder Bath, Somerset, England Mary J Sykes Servant Unmarried Female 9 1852 Nurse Maid Marsden, Yorkshire, Street Roundthorn Road Parish Oldham Town Oldham County Lancashire Municipal ward Clarksfield Parliamentary borough Oldham Hamlet Oldham Ecclesiastical district Christchurch Registration district Oldham Enumeration district 32 Archive reference Piece number 3022 Folio number 45 Page number 1
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mgnv
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31 Dec 2015 02:16 |
Using more local indexes from http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Bath Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1839 NOBLE Alfred Walcot - First Series Bath BARNARD WL1/2/099 1840 NOBLE Edward Walcot - First Series Bath BARNARD WL1/3/260 1843 NOBLE John Arthur Walcot - First Series Bath BARNARD WL1/5/029 1846 NOBLE Ellen Walcot - First Series Bath BARNARD WL1/7/107 1848 NOBLE Henry Adolphus Abbey Bath BARNARD ABB/8/111
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Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856 to 1860 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference NOBLE Amelia Augusta LEECH John Ashton under Lyne Civil Marriage or Registrar Attended Tameside RM/17/110
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1860 LEECH Charles Samuel Oldham Above Town Oldham NOBLE OAT/43/387 1862 LEECH Mary Ellen Oldham Above Town Oldham NOBLE OAT/47/470
1861 Census Piece: RG9/3022 Place: Oldham-Above-Town -Lancashire Enumeration District: 32 Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church Folio: 45 Page: 1 Schedule: 2 Address: Roundthorn Rd Greenheys Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks LEECH John Head M M 26 Clerk At Machine Works Lancashire - Ashton Under Lyne LEECH Amelia A Wife M F 26 Somerset - Bath LEECH Charles S Son - M 10m Lancashire - Oldham NOBLE Edward Brolaw U M 20 Iron Moulder Somerset - Bath SYKES Mary J Servnt U F 9 Nurse Maid Yorkshire - Marsden Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1865 Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference LEECH John 31 Oldham Above Town Oldham OAT/39/7
Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Burial: 24 Oct 1865 StPeter, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England John Leech - Age: 31 yrs. Abode: Oldham Buried by: W. Ogden Register: Burials 1865 - 1881, Page 75, Entry 598 Source: LDS Family Search
Presumably buried in Ashton with his folks.
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDDG-5PZ
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Rodney
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31 Dec 2015 21:41 |
Hi All those that replied to my post, Just in case I missed any one on my individual replys, Thanks again for all your help. Regards Rod
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mgnv
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31 Dec 2015 22:42 |
For some pics of Batcombe: http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/ST6939
The blue grid lines on the inset map are 1km apart. The centre of the church is only just in this sq - navigate to the adjacent sqs for the rest of the village.
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