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Hi all,

Am trying to help my cousin find out more about her Grandparents John Williams (born Wales no DOB) and Elizabeth Macready ((No DOB or place either!).

Their son Robert, Henry Williams was born on 20th February 1913 in Scotland so it is possible that his mother was also from North of the border.

Can anyone help locate their marriage and or the birth of any other children that John and Elizabeth had?

It is possible that her surname may have been spelt Mcreadie, Mcready or even a different variation. Am sorry this is all I have to go on!

Please can anyone help if not can you point me the right direction of where to look? Many thanks in advance.

L L :-) :-) :-)

I can't see anything to match in England or Wales. If they married in Scotland then you need Scotlands people. Its not at subscription site, you need to buy credits to view the records.

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Andy

Are you sure Robert was born in Scotland?

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Williams Robert H McCreadie Cardiff 11a 800

Andy

Thanks Andy that's really helpful.

Regards
Christine

Possible sibling for the above birth. No sign of a marriage that I can see.

Births Sep 1915
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Williams Grace McCreadie Cardiff 11a 744




Andy

I don't know if he was born in Scotland for certain. My cousin seems to think that he was born there however, another of our cousins did say he thinks Robert was Welsh which means what you have found is very interesting!! ;-)

That is also interesting!! As far as I'm aware my cousin does not know if Robert had any siblings. I do know that Robert married my Aunty in 1955 in Devon and that he had previously been married before however, no idea when or where the marriage took place.

Thanks!!

Can't see the marriage in Scotland, per ScotlandsPeople.

Thanks for that ArgyllGran!!

could this be robert

Robert Henry Williams
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
birth: 20 February 1913
death registration: January 1995 Southwark, London, England

There is this marriage.....

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
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McCreadie Elizabeth Cardiff 11a 558
Williams George Henry Cardiff 11a 558


1911


Name:Geo Henry Williams
Age in 1911:44
Estimated birth year:abt 1867
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Cardiff
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County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:22 Kerrycroy St Adamsdown Cardiff
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:14
Estimated Marriage Year:1897
Occupation:Railway Goods Guard
Registration district:Cardiff
Registration District Number:588
Sub-registration district:Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel:24
Household schedule number:217
Piece:32123
Household Members:
Name
Age


Geo Henry Williams 44
Elizabeth Williams 35
Florrie Williams 11
Agness Williams 8
William Alex Williams 6
Elizabeth Williams 5
James Williams 3
David McCreadie 29

Andy

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Williams Robert H McCreadie Cardiff 11a 800

Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
Williams Grace McCreadie Cardiff 11a 744

Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Williams Edna McCreadie Stafford 6b 13

Long shot. She's not with her parents in 1891.:

Elizabeth Mc Creadie
in the 1881 Wales Census
Name: Elizabeth Mc Creadie
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William Mc Creadie
Mother's name: Elizabeth Mc Creadie
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff
Civil Parish: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 5 Augusta St
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 17a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5280
Folio: 5
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mc Creadie 34
Elizabeth Mc Creadie 29
James R. Mc Creadie 7
Elizabeth Mc Creadie 5
William A. Mc Creadie 2

could this be elizabeth


Elizabeth Kirk Mccreadie
Scotland Births and Baptisms
Name Elizabeth Kirk Mccreadie
Gender Female
Birth Date 08 Aug 1881
Birthplace Hutchesontown, Lanark, Scotland
Father's Name Robert Mccreadie
Mother's Name Agnes Walker Mccreadie

Hi all really sorry only just replying but my internet has been down. Yes that is definitely Robert's birth and death.

Thanks so much for the other information which you have all kindly found for me, this is just so fantastic!! My cousin will be so happy.

You guys are just the best! ;-)

Lindalucy - how sure was your cousin of Robert Henry's father's name? Has she bought Robert Henry's marriage certificate to make sure of who he states as his father?

This baptism relates to the birth and census already posted:

Glamorgan Baptisms Transcription
First name(s) ROBERT HENRY
Last name WILLIAMS
Birth year 1913 - no actual date given
Baptism year 1913
Baptism day 18
Baptism month Mar
Baptism place ROATH, ST SAVIOUR
Father's first name(s) George Henry - a railway guard of 22 Kerrycroy Street
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales

Hi MarieCeleste, thank you for reply last night. I am not sure if my cousin has bought her parents marriage certificate. All I know is she has Robert, Henry's Father as John on her tree (born in Wales). If she doesn't already have the certificate then that would be a good starting point.

Perhaps he was known as John?? Through my own family research I have come across so many people using or being known by a different Christian name!

The Baptism you have posted would definitely fit as Robert, Henry Williams was born on 20/02/1913. :-D

Many thanks again.

Hi all! on behalf of my cousin Sue I would like to say thank you so much for all your hard work. This information is 100% spot on. My cousin had been told that her Grandfather worked on the railways and that had been killed in a freak accident when a station sign fell on his head.

My uncle Bob (Robert) had wanted to name my cousin Grace after his sister however, his wife did not the name as she thought it was old fashioned!

Sue is totally excited about this find which will now enable her to continue her research on the paternal side.

Happy 2016! :-D