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Shirley
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26 Dec 2015 13:20 |
Hi. Please could anyone check the 1891 census for the above chap who should be approx 34. Born approx 1856. In Burnley hopefully ....Lancashire. wondering where he was born. Found three that could be him on bmd. Thanks. :-)
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Andrew
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26 Dec 2015 13:33 |
Name:Archibald Blair Age:34 Estimated birth year:abt 1857 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Mary Blair Gender:Male Where born:York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish:All Saints Habergham Eaves Ecclesiastical parish: Habergham Eaves All Saints Town:Burnley County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district:Burnley ED, institution, or vessel:50 Neighbors: View others on page Piece:3370 Folio:62 Page Number:38 Household Members: Name Age
Archibald Blair 34 Coalminer Mary Blair 32 Edward Blair 10 James A Blair 8 Herbert Blair 5 Ernest Blair 3 Elizabeth A Blair 6/12 John Tattersall 72 Father in law Andy
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Andrew
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26 Dec 2015 13:37 |
His birth?
Births Jun 1857 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blair Archibald York 9d 127 Blair Archibald York 9d 27
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26 Dec 2015 14:21 |
If that's the right couple then this is the marriage:
Archibald Blair in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Archibald Blair Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Date: 1856 Marriage Date: 1876 Marriage Place: Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Father: William Blair Spouse: Mary Susannah Tattersall, age 17, father John Tattersall FHL Film Number: 1526143 Reference ID: 2:1QNN5WS
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The Lancs OPC version
Marriage: 7 May 1876 Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Archibald Blair - (X), 20, Banksman, Bachelor, Gannow Lane Mary Susannah Tattersall - (X), 17, Rover, Spinster, Gannow Lane Groom's Father: William Blair, Deceased Bride's Father: John Tattersall, Boatsman Witness: John Cunliffe; Jane Wilkinson Married by Certificate by: George Frederick Reynolds Register: Marriages 1875 - 1879, Page 90, Entry 179 Source: LDS Film 1526143
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alviegal
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26 Dec 2015 16:28 |
His death?
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) ARCHIBALD Last name BLAIR Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1857 Age 39 Death quarter 2 Death year 1896 District BURNLEY County Lancashire Volume 8E Page 142
or the same one? on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Burial: 23 May 1896 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England Archibald Blare - Age: 39yrs Abode: Rosegrove Lane Grave: 10007 Gender: M Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 98, Entry 48200 Source: Original Registers Book 7
EDIT Rosegrove Lane follows on from Gannow Lane.
From google maps.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 187, Gannow Lane, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary S Blair Head Widow Female 42 1859 Confectioner Hapton, Lancashire, England Transcription Edward Blair Son Single Male 20 1881 Wheelwright (Improver) Burnley, Lancashire, England Transcription James A Blair Son Single Male 18 1883 Cotton Mill Spinner Burnley, Lancashire, England Transcription Herbert Blair Son Single Male 15 1886 Blacksmith Burnley, Lancashire, England Transcription Ernest Blair Son Single Male 13 1888 Cotton Weaver Burnley, Lancashire, England Transcription Elizth Alice Blair Daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
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alviegal
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26 Dec 2015 17:16 |
This is the birth that Andrew has already posted but I am not finding Archibald in earlier census records so I think you need this to determine his birth.
from http://yorkshirebmd.org.uk
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference BLAIR Archibald Walmgate York WAL/25/37
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malyon
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26 Dec 2015 18:00 |
Name Phoebe Alice Blair Gender Female Christening Date 1878 Christening Place HABERGHAM-EVES, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND Birth Date 1878 Father's Name Archibald Blair Mother's Name Mary Susannah
Name Mary Emma Gender Female Christening Date 29 Jun 1893 Christening Place GANNOW, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND Birth Date 29 May 1893 Father's Name Archibald Blair Mother's Name Mary Susannah
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malyon
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26 Dec 2015 18:08 |
1881 census
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Archibald Blair England and Wales Census, 1881 Name Archibald Blair Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England Registration District Burnley Residence Note Gannow Lane Gender Male Age 25 Marital Status (Original) Married Occupation Coal Miner Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1856 Birthplace York, Yorkshire, England Page Number 33 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 4153/131 Affiliate Record Type Household HOUSEHOLD
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Archibald Blair Head M 25 York, Yorkshire, England Mary S Blair Wife F 22 Hapton, Lancashire, England Edward Blair Son M 11 M Burnley, Lancashire, England Richard F Gough Lodger M 23 British Subject, Malta
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ArgyllGran
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26 Dec 2015 18:14 |
Shirley, the three possible births you have found are actually two - one in Peterborough in 1855, and the one in York - it's transcribed twice on FreeBMD, because the page number is indistinct in the image, and two alternative versions have been given.
You haven't given us much info to go on. What else do you know about him? Parents' names? Siblings?
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Having said that, the one born in York does seem the more likely of the two.
Here's the Peterborough one in 1891 - nowhere near Lancashire:
Archibald Blair in the 1891 England Census Name: Archibald Blair Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Myron Blair Gender: Male Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Town: East Dulwich County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: Camberwell ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 471 Folio: 75 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Archibald Blair 36 Myron Blair 25 Harriet Claydon 20
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Shirley
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26 Dec 2015 18:40 |
Well it's definitely William Blair deceased in 1876 who is my archibald dad...and have his wedding details to Mary Susannah tattersall. That's all I know ...so think we can say with not much doubt that it's the York in 1857 one. Thanks. Not sure who his mum was but guess if we get the birth certificate we will discover. Thanks all. :-)
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Shirley
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26 Dec 2015 18:48 |
And the family still all have links with rosegrove/gannow lane area. Doris Blair is the link...she was daughter of Ernest and Sarah Jane mirfield. So think we have the correct Archibald. :-)
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ArgyllGran
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26 Dec 2015 21:48 |
Can this be him in 1871? The image does say Blades, but maybe the enumerator misheard the name. I can't see the birth of an Archibald Blades in Yorkshire or anywhere else, 1855-60, on FreeBMD.
I can't see Archibald Blair in 1861.
Archibald Blades in the 1871 England Census Name: Archibald Blades Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: York, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradleys Both Ecclesiastical parish: Cononley Town: Bradleys Both County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Skipton Sub-registration district: Kildwick ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 4264 Folio: 88 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Richard Booth 45 Elizabeth Booth 46 Margaret Booth 23 John Booth 15 Richard H Booth 13 Joseph Booth 8 James Booth 4 Thomas McCann 14 Archibald Blades 14 - piecer and cotton spinner
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27 Dec 2015 02:18 |
I've got a bookmark to: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd This has links to YorksBMD & LancsBMD (& others)
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BLAIR Archibald TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/6/179
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1844 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TATTERSALL John HODGSON Alice Burnley, Holy Trinity Preston CE104/1/159
Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Marriage: 14 Apr 1844 Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves, Lancs. John Tattersall - (X), full age, Waterman, Bachelor, Gannow, Hab. Eaves Alice Hodgson - (X), full age, Weaver, Spinster, Rose-grove, Hab. Eaves Groom's Father: Edward Tattersall, Waterman Bride's Father: James Hodgson, Waterman Witness: John Smith, (X); Robert Hodgson, (X) Married by Banns by: James Butler, Offg. Minister Register: Marriages 1837 - 1848, Page 80, Entry 159 Source: LDS Film 1526142
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1859 TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Padiham Preston HODGEON PA/13/79 ---------------- 1877 BLAIR John William Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/115/64 1878 BLAIR Phoebe Alice Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/123/92 1880 BLAIR Edward Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/132/17 1883 BLAIR James Arthur Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/148/31 1885 BLAIR Herbert Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/165/9 1888 BLAIR Ernest Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/179/68 1890 BLAIR Elizabeth Alice Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/195/71 1893 BLAIR Mary Emma Burnley Preston TATTERSALL BU/213/46
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference 1877 BLAIR John William 0 Burnley Preston BU/78/85 1878 BLAIR Phoebe Alice 0 Burnley Preston BU/82/90 1895 BLAIR Mary Emma 2 Burnley Preston BU/148/4 1896 BLAIR Archibald 39 Burnley Preston BU/151/74
Burial: 22 Aug 1877 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. John William Blair - Age: 6mnths Abode: Gannow Grave: 10006 Gender: M Register: Burials 1873 - 1879, Page 176, Entry 17516 Source: Original Registers Book 3
Burial: 5 Nov 1878 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Phoebe Alice Blair - Age: 2mnths Abode: Gannow Lane Grave: 10006 Gender: F Register: Burials 1873 - 1879, Page 237, Entry 19163 Source: Original Registers Book 3
Burial: 8 Aug 1895 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Mary Emma Blair - Age: 2yrs Abode: Rosegrove Lane Grave: 10006 Gender: F Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 41, Entry 46596 Source: Original Registers Book 7
Burial: 23 May 1896 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Archibald Blare - Age: 39yrs Abode: Rosegrove Lane Grave: 10007 Gender: M Register: Burials 1895 - 1899, Page 98, Entry 48200 Source: Original Registers Book 7
Seeing as they were all buried in just 2 graves, presumably adjacent, I also checked the graves register:
Grave: 10005 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Interments: Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried 1 Emma Blair 77yrs Bergen St F Book 17 #132824 9 Aug 1961 2 James Arthur Blair 78yrs Bergen St M Book 17 #132888 18 Sep 1961
Grave: 10006 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Interments: Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried 1 John William Blair 6mnths Gannow M Book 3 #17516 22 Aug 1877 2 Phoebe Alice Blair 2mnths Gannow Lane F Book 3 #19163 5 Nov 1878 3 Alice Tattersall 61yrs Rosegrove F Book 4 #23928 2 Jun 1882 4 John Blair 36yrs Railway Terrace M Book 6 #38463 28 Mar 1891 5 Mary Emma Blair 2yrs Rosegrove Lane F Book 7 #46596 8 Aug 1895 6 John Tattersall 82yrs Workhouse M Book 8 #56878 7 Mar 1901
Grave: 10007 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancs. Interments: Name Age Abode Gender Source Register Date buried 1 Archibald Blare 39yrs Rosegrove Lane M Book 7 #48200 23 May 1896 2 Elizabeth Alice Blair 14yrs Wren St F Book 9 #63435 26 Nov 1904 3 Mary Susannah Hammond 68yrs 3 Bergen Street F Book 13 #97186 4 May 1927 4 John William Hammond 86yrs 3 Bergen Street M Book 14 #112429 9 Mar 1940
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference HAMMOND * John William BLAIR Mary Susannah Gannow, St John the Baptist Preston CE102/3/296 HAMMOND * John William TATTERSALL Mary Susannah Gannow, St John the Baptist Preston CE102/3/296
Marriages Mar 1909 (>99%) BLAIR Mary Susannah Burnley 8e 312 BRENNAND John William Burnley 8e 312 HAMMOND John William Burnley 8e 312 HUGHES Margaret Ann Burnley 8e 312
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Shirley
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27 Dec 2015 08:49 |
Thanks gang...loads of info for me to chase up. Think you might be on to something with archibald blades. Especially as , coincidentally , doris blair, Ernest Blair's daughter ( one of archibald sons) married james Heaton. In 1940. His dad was james Heaton also..he married Emily monks/ speak....but james mums maiden name was possibly McCann. Thank you. :-)
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ArgyllGran
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27 Dec 2015 13:12 |
Probably irrelevant - however . . . .
Your mention of McCann, and also the fact of the daughter Phoebe Alice, brings me back to this marriage, which I've been wondering about:
Phebe Maccann England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name Phebe Maccann Event Type Marriage Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1853 Registration District Ripon County Yorkshire Event Place Ripon, Yorkshire, England Volume 9A Page 88 Line Number 27 Phebe Maccann probably married one of the following people Name John Richmond Name William Blair <<<<<<<<<<< ??????????????? Name Elizabeth Fearn
I can't seem to find Phebe married conclusively to either John Richmond or William Blair in 1861 census.
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Shirley
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27 Dec 2015 17:20 |
Yes I was wondering about that too. Wonder if they are anywhere on the 1871 ? My William Blair was dead before 1876 I think .
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