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Catherine in her letter 1854 NY City to her son John states that William and Daniel are with her,in the 1857 letter states that it is three years since William left the house and has not been seen or heard from since and he may have drowned Catherine does not say why she thinks this may have happened,

William was 45 yrs old when he disappeared,i have no clue as to what type of work he did or anything about him that is why i was hoping to find him on the 1841/51 UK census,
I do not think it possible to find him in USA if he decided to leave for some reason.

So was Catherine saying that WJ had disappeared from NY, or could it be that he hadn't gone to NY at all, and had disappeared in England?

Does she give any indication as to when he disappeared, or how long it was since she'd last had contact with him? I'm assuming some time between the two letters - ie - between 1854 and 1857?

EDIT: But William Dunn is such a common name that it maybe impossible to pinpoint him, if in any records. Also, if he "disappeared" deliberately, he may have changed his name.

Many thanks to all.
I have most if not all this info except for John ,Daniel birth,bap. I have copies of two letters from Carherine Dunn New York 1854/1857 to her son John in Melbourne Australia Catherine states that William Joseph disappeared and not seen again by 1857,.Daniel bedridden by stroke? believed to have died in N.Y.sometime from 1857/59 when Catherine returned to England.
Ellen/Ellenor married Owen McDermott, Owen lost at sea 1856 Ellen/Ellenor remarried had daughter but Catherine did not mention new husband by name only being a shipmate of her son John when serving on the ship Ripon.

Anyone researching this family and would like a copy of the letters from Catherine let me know. Where was William J until going t o USA ?

A bit more info:

Catherine Egan b. 1781 Newcastle upon Tyne d. 30/12/1862 at Portsea Island married John Dunn b. 1782 Newcastle upon Tyne d. 17/08/1853 at Portsea Island. John was a Shipwright.They had seven (7) children. William Joseph b.1809, Eliza b.1810, Eleanor b.1812, Maryanne b1814, Thomas b.?, Daniel b.? and John b.1830.John was transported to Australia in 1946 on the Maitland for stealing cigars, but was granted a warrant of pardon on the journey out.

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/egan/632/

Related thread by Ken about the same family:

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1334219

How do you know Catherine, William & Dan were in NY in 1854? I don't see any record of this (so far).

???? Could this be Catherine & Daniel? It doesn't give their nationality:-

Daniel Dunn
in the New York, State Census, 1855
Name: Daniel Dunn
Birth Year: abt 1829
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Relation to Head: Head
Residence: New York City, Ward 8, New York, New York, USA
District: E.D. 8
Household number: 395
Line Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Dunn 26
Catherine Dunn 56 - mother

?? looks like the 1841 family , but now saying parents born Newcastle on Tyne

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5, Dean Street, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Dunn Head Married Male 69 1782 Shipwright Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Catherine Dunn Wife Married Female 68 1783 - Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Maria Dunn Daughter Married Female 45 1806 Charwoman Parish Relief Portsea, Hampshire, England
Ann Dunn Daughter - Female 11 1840 Seamans Child Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Helen Dunn Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Portsea, Hampshire, England
Ellen Larey Lodger Single Female 40 1811 Schoolmistress Portsea, Hampshire, England

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1841 England Census
Name Catherine Dunn
Age 55
Estimated Birth Year abt 1786
Gender Female
Where born Hampshire, England
Civil parish Portsea Town
Hundred Portsmouth Borough
County/Island Hampshire
Country England
Registration district Portsea Island
Sub-registration district Portsea Town
Res: Whites Row

Household Members

John Dunn 55 (Shipwright)
Catherine Dunn 55
Mary Dunn 25

?? Parents and sister Mary in 1841

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whites Row, Portsea, Portsea Island, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Dunn Male 55 1786 Hampshire, England Shipwright
Catherine Dunn Female 55 1786 Hampshire, England
Mary Dunn Female 25 1816 Hampshire, England

Ellenor Dunn in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Ellenor Dunn
Birth Date: 31 May 1812
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Dunn
Mother: Catherine Dunn
Baptism Date: 9 Aug 1812
Baptism Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title: Piece 0563: Portsea, Daniel Street (Wesleyan), 1798-1832


Mary Anne Dunn in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Mary Anne Dunn
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1814
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Dunn
Mother: Cathrn Dunn
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1814
Baptism Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title: Piece 0563: Portsea, Daniel Street (Wesleyan), 1798-1832


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Mary Ann Dunn in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Mary Ann Dunn
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 23 Jun 1836
Marriage Place: Portsmouth, Southampton, Hampshire, England
Spouse: George Charles Best

Eliza Dunn in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970
Name: Eliza Dunn
Birth Date: 31 Jul
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Father: John Dunn
Mother: Catherine Dunn
Baptism Date: 26 Aug 1810
Baptism Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Piece Title:mPiece 0563: Portsea, Daniel Street (Wesleyan), 1798-1832

I have found the following Baptism

Name William Joseph Dunn
Birth date: 13 Jun 1809
Bap Date: 02 Jul 1809
Place: Portsea (Daniel Street) Wesleyan
Father: John
Mother: Catherine
Denomination: Wesleyan Methodist

trying to find William bap1809 Portsea Hamp. parents John,Catherine Dunn,could not find William on census went to USA c1854.
thanks.