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desperately trying to track down very elusive side of family
just about ripping my hair out
chris

Where was his family known to live . Did they come back to the UK

Did he come over to study !??


First name(s) IAN
Last name SPENCE
Gender Male
Birth year 1936
Birth day 21
Birth month 8
Marital status S
Occupation STUDENT
Departure year 1958
Departure day 12
Departure month 6
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Destination DURBAN (PORT NATAL)
Country SOUTH AFRICA
Destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Ship name EDINBURGH CASTLE
Ship master's first name H C
Ship master's last name DELLER
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port SOUTH AFRICA
Ship destination country SOUTH AFRICA
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

Address in the UK St Johns College Cambridge

Holds a South African passport and intending to live in South Africa

There are quite a few Spence travel records back and forth to South Africa

Have you names of other Spence family members ?

The above appears to be Ian Michael Spence b 21 Aug 1936 Lourenco Marques

Mother Patricia V Spence 1917c

Source: Immigration records

Welcome to the Community boards Chris...



I'll let Chris know how to find these replies.. :-)

Hi All
I had the info about Ian being a student,etc.
I have been told by Ians ex-wife that she believed that Ian's dad was John Spence, but doesn't really remember anything about him.
I was able to find his marriage to Margaret Aird Ewart 1903 in south africa, which would give him a birth date of 1881. That is where my problem starts, I can find just nothing about him, at all, anywhere.She thought that John may have died not long after attending Ian jnr christening in 1953, but again, not really sure.
Any help would be so appreciated
Chris :-D

(with that name search on google, came below)

Chris :)


Berwickshire News and General Advertiser Northumberland, England

23 Jun 1903

Marriage
At Durban, Natal, on the 19th May, by special license. Jno. Spence, Quarter-Master-Sergeant, South African Constabulary, to Margaret Aird Ewart, youngest daughter of the late Ralph Ewart, Tweedmouth, and Mrs Ewart, 74 Meldon street, Newcastle-on-Tyne.


03 July 1858 - Illustrated Berwick Journal - Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northumberland

Marriage
In Golden Square Chapel, by the Rev. John Cairns, D.D., Ralph Ewart, millwright, Tweedmouth, to Phillis, youngest daughter of the late James Aird, master mariner, of Berwick.


http://www.eggsa.org/

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

(not sure if anything on above)



Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Ewart Margaret Aird Berwick 10b 398


(with below 1881, 1, Calf Close, Tweedmouth, Berwick, Northumberland)

Ralph Ewart Head Married Male 46 1835 Millwright Scotland
Phillis Ewart Wife Married Female 43 1838 - Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, England


http://treestart.com/fh/Alan-Spence/580757831

(relating?)

hi alan; have the info regarding margaret aird ewart, I have a copy of her marriage cert. It is her invisible husband John Spence that I am Ripping my hair out for. I have his descendants, but just nothing about him*******Chris

Chris

Can you post all the info from the marriage certificate, including address's/ wit/occupations/fathers etc

marriage 1903, 169 Nest St, Durban.
19th May 1903
John Spence @22 yrs Batchelor, occupation S.A.C, residing Durban
Margaret Aird Ewart @23 Spinster, Residing Durban

These records do not note parents names or other details,hope this helps.
Do you know anything about John, are you related to Alan Ewart Spence?Chris

No not related Chris, came up on google search!.

Chris :)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1356590

(did see above 'Thread', which looks like info. came from below, not sure if any help, or Boer War relating)

http://www.ancestors.co.za/database/constabulary-surname.php?term=M