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30 Nov 2015 12:30 |
Chasing information on my great grandfather. Know some things about his life in New Zealand but very little of his life in England. Born 1.01.1849 @ Scarborough.. His parents were William David, Stonemason, of the City of York and Elizabeth of Langtoft. John had siblings Sarah Ann, Elizabeth, David Robert, Henry and James Henry. Elizabeth was married to John Thomas Atkinson and David Robert married Kate Dennis.
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MargaretM
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30 Nov 2015 12:36 |
Do you have him on the censuses?
John Wm Banister
in the 1851 England Census Record Image View
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Name: John Wm Banister Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's name: William Banister Mother's name: Elizabeth Banister Gender: Male Where born: Scarboro, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Scarborough Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Scarborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Filey ED, institution, or vessel: 1e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 2368 Folio: 258 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age William Banister 39 Elizabeth Banister 25 Sarah Ann Banister 3 John Wm Banister 2 Elizh Marshall 11
Although father William seems to be a soliciter's clerk. Rather different from a stonemason!
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safc
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30 Nov 2015 12:43 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, Hope Street, Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Banister Head Widower Male 49 1812 Solicitors General Clerk & Secrtary In A Buildi### - Transcription Sarah Ann Banister Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Transcription John William Banister Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Banister Daughter - Female 7 1854 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Transcription David Robert Banister Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Transcription Hannah Connor Servant Married Female 30 1831 House Keeper Weaverthorpe, Yorkshire, England
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MargaretM
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30 Nov 2015 12:45 |
He's also a soliciter's clerk in 1861:
John William Banister
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Name: John William Banister Age: 12 Estimated birth year: 1849 Relation: Son Father's name: William Banister Gender: Male Where born: Scarborough, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Scarborough Town: Scarborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Scarborough Sub-registration district: Scarborough ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 3616 Folio: 42 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age William Banister 49 Sarah Ann Banister 13 John William Banister 12 Elizabeth Banister 7 David Robert Banister 5 Hannah Connor 30
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30 Nov 2015 12:55 |
Yorkshire Baptisms Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) John William Last name Banister Birth year 1849 Birth date 01 Jan 1849 Baptism year 1849 Baptism date 21 Jan 1849 Baptism place Scarborough, St Mary Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth County Yorkshire (North Riding) Country England Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service Archive reference PE 165/5 Page 296 Record set Yorkshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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30 Nov 2015 12:56 |
Where did you get his DOB & his father's occupation from? As you don't give his MMN, you probably don't have the birth cert.
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safc
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30 Nov 2015 13:00 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pickerings Row, Fridaythorpe, Pocklington, Yorkshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Banister Head - Male 47 1824 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Mary Banister Wife - Female 43 1828 - Yorkshire, England Transcription David R Banister Nephew - Male 15 1856 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Emily Garbutt Niece - Female 17 1854 - Yorkshire, England Transcription Morris Winder Servant - Male 34 1837 - Yorkshire, England
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safc
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30 Nov 2015 13:03 |
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England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) William Last name Banister Name note - Age 30 Marriage year 1846 Marriage date 21 Oct 1846 Marriage place Brooklyn, Kings, New York Father's first name(s) - Father's last name - Mother's first name(s) - Mother's last name - Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Banister Spouse's birth year 1825 Spouse's birth date 1825 Spouse's father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's last name - Spouse's mother's first name(s) - Spouse's mother's last name - Residence York, England Place - County Yorkshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1846 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BANISTER William BANISTER Elizabeth Great Driffield, All Saints East Riding BRD221/001/224
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safc
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30 Nov 2015 13:17 |
Marriages Dec 1846 (>99%) Ashby Ann Driffield 23 67 Banister Elizabeth Driffield 23 67 xxxx Banister William Driffield 23 67 xxxx Bowman George Driffield 23 67 Foster Anthony Driffield 23 67 Goodlass Maria Driffield 23 67 Hobson Rebecca Driffield 23 67 Kitson James Driffield 23 67
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30 Nov 2015 13:23 |
Is this William in 1841 - unable to read occupation
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Tanner Street Fish Yard, Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place William Banister Male 25 1816 Yorkshire, England
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greyghost
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30 Nov 2015 13:38 |
Siblings Henry and James Henry mentioned by Neil - would appear to have been born and died in Scar'bro RD
Henry b 1857 d 1857 and James Henry b1860 d 1860
and did Elizabeth die during or post birth of James Henry who was born Q3 and died Q4 England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ELIZABETH Last name BANISTER Gender Female Death quarter 3 Death year 1860 District SCARBOROUGH County Yorkshire Volume 9D Page 176
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MargaretM
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30 Nov 2015 13:42 |
I believe occupation in 1841 was Cl. Short for clerk?
Edit: Yes, confirmed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Census_1841
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Nov 2015 13:42 |
On image of Baptism (Find My Past) posted by safc above, occ. of William as Attorney's Clerk.
1924/9954 Bannister John William 75Y
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/
Chris :)
(below was a previous, 1851 added)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/968678
Neil Report 6 Nov 2007 11:38
Can anyone provide me with info on my great grandfather John William Bannister ( Banister ) born in Scarborough in 1849 and died in Hokitika New Zealand 26 November 1924? He was shown as the son of William Bannister in the English Census of 1861 and was 12 years of age. His brothers and sisters were Sarah Ann 13, Elizabeth 7, and David Robert 5. He was a lawyer at some stage in England and immigrated to the South Island of New Zealand where he became a school teacher and set up the first school on the West Coast of NZ.
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safc
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30 Nov 2015 13:49 |
https://www.onegreatfamily.com/fh/John-Bannister/590019321
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greyghost
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30 Nov 2015 13:55 |
The transcription of the 1851 census posted by Margee shows Elizabeth his mother as born in Thwing, Yorkshire (original could say that - which to the uninitiated seems a strange name). However family search shows the following baptism in Thwing, which would also fit her age shown. Thwing is about 5km from Langtoft Elizabeth Bannister England Births and Christenings Name Elizabeth Bannister Gender Female Christening Date 17 Jul 1825 Christening Place THWING,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name William Bannister Mother's Name Sarah CITING THIS RECORD
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWNP-YJL : accessed 30 November 2015), Elizabeth Bannister, 17 Jul 1825; citing THWING,YORK,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 919,210.
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Chris Ho :)
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30 Nov 2015 15:55 |
06 November 1846 - Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette - Hull, East
Marriage On Monday, the 2nd instant, at Driffield, Mr. William Banister. attorney’s clerk, Scarborough, to Miss Banister, niece to Mr. John Banister, Driffield.
Chris :)
(stone mason, bit of a mystery!, was that from below?)
Births Dec 1847 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Banister Sarah Ann Scarboro' 24 488
Births Mar 1849 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------- BANISTER John William Scarboro' 24 550
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Cynthia
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30 Nov 2015 16:56 |
Welcome to the Community boards Neil
(I'll let Neil know how to find his replies) :-)
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Neil
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13 Dec 2015 11:56 |
Cynthia thank you for this. I do think William was a Solicitor's clerk not a stonemason. I believe that profession was further up the chain.The info I received this on was an excerpt from the family bible. thanks Neil
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SylviaInCanada
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14 Dec 2015 01:39 |
Sarah Ann does not appear to have married ........ in 1901, she is housekeeper (non-domestic) for her cousin William Banister, Rope Maker, and living in Wold Newton, Yorkshire
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Neil
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30 Dec 2015 05:08 |
Thank you for this information. I have tracked down a fair amount of information on John William and his family but lose him when he migrated or was sent to New Zealand. Thanks Neil.
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