Find Ancestors

hi all hit a brick wall with regards to the burn line of the family.
looking for a james burn (paper maker) but could also be a labourer with regards to census information.
i believe he may have died between 1851 and 1854 give or take a couple of years.
i think he was roughly born around 1791 in ireland but was living in washington county durham in 1841.
any help would be apprechiated
cheers
s

Attach to Family Tree
James Byrne
England and Wales Census, 1841
Name James Byrne
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Washington, Durham, England
Residence Note Washington
Gender Male
Age 50-54
Age (Original) 50
Birth Year (Estimated) 1787-1791
Birthplace Ireland
Registration District Chester Le Street
Book Number 13
Parish Washington
County Durham
Page Number 22
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 299/14
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

James Byrne M 50-54 Ireland
Mary Byrne F 45-49 Durham
Elizabeth Byrne F 13 Durham

this could be mary you will have to get the 1851 census

Mary Burns
England and Wales Census, 1851
Name Mary Burns
Age 58
Gender F
Birthplace Durham
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Schedule Type Household

james could have died 1n 1849 in sunderland which covers washington district


Deaths Jun 1848 (>99%)
Burns James Sunderland 24 199

or if the name is burn could be these deaths



Deaths Mar 1852 (>99%)
BURN James Sunderland 10a 173

Deaths Dec 1853 (>99%)
Burn James Sunderland 10a 185

hi thanks i will check these out. mary is his wife living with hin washington in 1841 cenus daughter mary ann not living with them and carnt finf them on the 1851 census together but according to marriage certs of mary ann(married 1851) and elizabeth (married 1854) it only states james burn father deceased on elizabeths marriage cert not mary ann. then mary , james wife turns up in the 1861 census living with her daughter mary ann (scott) in sunderland as widowed.

No point posing the same question twice within half hour of each other. Information gets duplicated wasting members time and effort.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356153

The only way to know if any of those deaths are your James, is to buy the certs.

If he did indeed die in the 1850's, there's nothing more we can find out about him online.

I don't see any sign of his marriage in Co Durham.

I remember this family from some time ago (not sure if it was Sean or another poster) when we were looking for a marriage for James & Mary.

hi sorry for the confusion proplems with the laptop didnt relise it had posted twice.
yes potty i have asked about mary burn before and you gave me lots of help. i am member of a lot of sites and ats come to a point where i dont know what ive posted haha..so if there was no marriage between james and mary and she just took his name on would the only answer be to send away for all these death certs of james burn burns byrne etc. also not sure if i have asked this before but when mary had her first daughter whom i believe to be mary ann (marian) st nicholas poorhouse 1821 would there not be any record of the mothers maiden namen anywhere.
no poor house records for durham before 1880s i think

thanks
sorry any for the confusion people

Sean's earlier post about the daughter Mary Ann Burns:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1343238

has anyone got any ideas what route i could take now???
thanks again

Having re-read both your threads, Sean, it looks as if you may just have to accept that you've reached a dead end.

Frustrating though it is, most of us have at least one somewhere in our trees!