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Hi there i'm looking for any information regarding Harry evans i have no information of his date of birth or where he was born as he died in 1925 he was my nans father and her step father destroyed anything that was her dads even photos(by all accounts he was a vile man the step father) my grandmothers name was margery edith evans and her mothers name was ellen evans nee jukes however we think she may have been married once before being married to harry evans in 1916 in birmingham. any help would be much appreciated as i have come to a dead end. thank you

Hello Rebecca, if you can tell us where in 1925 Harry Evans died it might help us by finding the death record to check his age at death.

well my nan was born in birmingham so were her brothers so i am assuming that he died in birmingham probably aston and surrounding areas but there is a rumour he died of his first world war wounds how much of that is true im not sure

Is this your grandmother and a brother?

Births Dec 1920
Evans Margery E Jukes Birmingham 6d 552

Births Dec 1922
Evans Harry Jukes Birmingham 6d 514

Possibly?

Deaths Jun 1925
Evans Harry 46 Birmingham N 6d 306

that is my grandmother and her brother as i have those records im just stuck with their dad as cant seem to get a correct record for his birth or anything and where he was born because there are rumours he was welsh.

This is their marriage, I think in 1919 (not 1916)

Marriages Dec 1919
Evans Harry Loaver Birmingham 6d 761
Leaver Ellen Evans Birmingham 6d 761

Looks like Ellen's first marriage was the 1916 one:

Marriages Mar 1916
Jukes Ellen Leaver Birmingham 6d 428
Leaver Lewis Jukes Birmingham 6d 428

You should really buy the 1919 marriage certificate to get more information about him. It should confirm his age, occupation and also his father's name and occupation (if known). That will help trace him back over.

Just for background, this may be the death of Ellen's first husband:

Deaths Mar 1917
Leaver Louis 21 Birmingham 6d 358

ADDED: His WW1 pension records are on Ancestry, the age on death fits as he was 18 when he enlisted 1914. He was dismissed on health grounds - heart problems.

Thank you I've ordered the marriage cert for harry and Ellen thanks so much for your help

Harry Evans
United Kingdom, World War I Service Records
Name Harry Evans
Event Type Military Service
Event Year 1914
Residence Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Age 28
Military Company/Regiment Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
Military Regiment 1501
Military Battalion 8th Battalion
Birth Year (Estimated) 1886
Birthplace Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Hi Rebecca

You will need details from the marriage cert to confirm......

A tree on Ancestry has Harry Evans who married Ellen Leaver nee Jukes.

Children......Marjorie, Harry and Leonard.

The details of his birth.......

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name Harry Walter G Evans
Registration Year 1896
Registration QuarterJan-Feb-Mar
Registration districtBirmingham
Inferred CountyWarwickshire
Volume 6d
Page 41

I found a baptism......

Harry Walter Grimley Evans in the Birmingham, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name:Harry Walter Grimley Evans
Baptism Date:18 Mar 1896
Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England
Father:Harry Grimley Evans (Ironmonger) 47 Ledsarr?? Street.
Mother:Elizabeth Evans

As I said......the marriage cert will confirm whether on not the above info is correct.

Harry W S Evans in the 1911 England Census
Name:Harry W S Evans
Age in 1911:15
Estimated birth year:abt 1896
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Birmingham, Warwickshire
Civil Parish:Oldbury
County/Island:
Staffordshire
Country:England
Street address:103 Wigorn Rd, Bearwood, Warley, Birmingham
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Jeweller Junior Clerk
Registration district:West Bromwich
Sub-registration district:Oldbury

Household Members:

Harry G Evans 48 ...Birmingham Warwickshire (Commercial Traveller)
Elizabeth Ann Evans 40
Harry W S Evans 15
Doris A E Evans 9
Winnie Evans 8

Married 15 yrs.....4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died.

(I am not seeing a death for a Harry W G Evans)

Actually.......I have just checked and it appears to be your tree on Ancestry and you already have all the above information.

the death 1925 found cant't be the harry in 1911 census as he was aged 46 when he died he was born 1879

Yeah I attached some to my other tree as didn't know which harry it was as he died when my nan was young I've only got second hand information hoping the marriage cert will give me definite answers.

still waiting for marriage cert grrrr just want it to come now

Hi got the marriage cert in the post yesterday and got his date of birth what religion the marriage was done under and where they lived it's amazing I'm no longer stuck on my great grandfather harry and it feels amazing I might order his birth certificate though as still not sure where he was born

Jolly good!

:o))