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31 Oct 2015 13:46 |
I belive that Theodore R Hall may have died in the 1970's rather than later as it seems that gentleman was coloured and does not have a middle name, I have estblished some relations are mentioned on the obituary of John Robert Hall who died in 2002.
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30 Oct 2015 17:44 |
I already had details of Lewis Harold Hall and his elder brothers Michael and Thomas Lancelot 1902-1978 who remained in England and lived in Essex.
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30 Oct 2015 17:36 |
I have noted that Theodore many times however I can clarify that my Theodore was white but today I did find Ted Robert Hall born to Ted Hall and Connie Sette 3 Feb 1939 death Cobb Fulton, Georgia 28 February 1998 as Anthony Sette other information reveals he was also known as Anthony Rob Sette.
He had married 27 August 1971 to Germain H Gaffney at Los Angeles City they divorced in November 1977.
I also found Constance M Sette married Manuel A Rosa 20 March 1974 she was 56 and he 40 at San Luis Obispa California.
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30 Oct 2015 17:09 |
That's interesting.
Name is the same Date of birth matches but Mother's name is noted as Francis Ivory Father's name is noted as Cq hall and Race is noted as Black
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30 Oct 2015 16:42 |
This is SSDI for the tree entry
Name: Theodore Hall SSN: 465-05-1348 Last Residence: 60637 Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA BORN: 12 Dec 1918 Died: 11 Mar 1992 State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)
Which matches up with the Social security applications and claims index
Name: Theodore Hall SSN: 465051348 Gender: Male Race: Black Birth Date: 12 Dec 1918 Birth Place: Cameron Mila, Texas [Chicago, Illinois] Father Name: Cq Hall Mother Name: Francis Ivory Death Date: 11 Mar 1992 Type of Claim: Original SSN. Notes: Jun 1937: Name listed as THEODORE HALL Wrong record!
His birth in England was reg 2nd Q 1918, so assuming his birth was reg within the permitted 6 weeks, his birth would fall anywhere between late Feb - June.
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MargaretM
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30 Oct 2015 16:09 |
I was curious about the double- barreled surname of Alice. There are these records on FreeBMD:
Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EMERY Alice Lawton Newcastle T. 10b 143
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1877 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LAWTON Alice Emery 1 Chester le Street 10a 264
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Catherine
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30 Oct 2015 15:28 |
A tree on ancestry has this for Theodore:-
Birth: 12 December 1918 (12 Dec 1918) - Durham Marriage: C 1938 - Illinois Death: 11 March 1992 (11 Mar 1992) - Illinois, USA Parents: George William Hall, Alice Emery Lawton Spouse: Connie b.1918 Chicago, Illinois
2 Children:- Theodore Thomas
Residence 1 Apr 1940 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Name Teddie Hall Event Type Census Event Date 1940 Event Place Ward 20, Chicago, Chicago City, Cook, Illinois, United States Gender Male Age 24 Marital Status Married Race (Original) White Race White Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Head Relationship to Head of Household Head Birthplace England Birth Year (Estimated) 1916 Last Place of Residence Same Place HOUSEHOLD
Teddie Hall Head M 24 England Connie Hall Wife F 22 Illinois Teddie Hall Son M 1 Illinois
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30 Oct 2015 15:21 |
The California death of Lewis in 1969 gives mother's maiden name Emery:
HALL LEWIS H 07/15/1907 EMERY M ILLINOIS LOS ANGELES(70) 09/21/1969 344-28-4480 62 yrs
From this site:
http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi
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Catherine
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30 Oct 2015 14:43 |
The family in 1901 Name: George W Hall Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Alice Hall Birth Place: Pelton, Durham, England Civil Parish: Weetslade Search Photos: Search for 'Weetslade' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Killingworth St John Town: Dudley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Longbenton ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4807 Folio: 93 Page Number: 5 Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age George W Hall 24 Alice Hall 22 Michael Hall 9/12 ........................................................................
THis is Alice coming back from USA:-
Name: Alice Hall Birth Date: abt 1879 Age: 29 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 18 Jan 1908 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Ship Name: Celtic Search Ship Database: Search for the Celtic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line Official Number: 113476
Travelling with:-
Michael 6yrs Thomas 5yrs Lewis 4mths
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Death of Michael:- Name Michael Hall Event Type Death Event Date 11 Jan 1978 Event Place Mcallen, Hidalgo, Texas, United States Gender Male Age 77 Birth Year (Estimated) 1901 Father's Name George Hall Mother's Name Alice Emery Lawton Certificate Number 03508
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30 Oct 2015 14:12 |
Just for confirmation that this is another son of same couple:-
1911 Name: Lewis Harold Hall Age in 1911: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1907 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Farmington Ill, United States Civil Parish: Pelton Search Photos: Search for 'Pelton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Durham Country: England Street address: 19 Ernest St. Pelton S.o. Durham Marital Status: Single Registration district: Chester le Street Registration District Number: 554 Sub-registration district: Chester le Street ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 30100 Household Members: Name Age George Wm Hall 35 Occupation: Coal Miner Stone Work (below Ground) Alid Hall 34 Michael Hall 11 Thomas L Hall 9 Lewis Harold Hall 4
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Catherine
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30 Oct 2015 14:10 |
You probably already have this but here it is anyway:-
Another son travelling to USA with George William Hall (Miner)
Name: Lewis H Hall Gender: Male Age: 14 Birth Date: abt 1908 Departure Date: 27 May 1922 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Baltic Search Ship Database: Search for the Baltic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Line Official Number: 118101 Master: F E Beadnell
Name: Geo Wm Hall Gender: Male Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1877 Departure Date: 27 May 1922 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Baltic Search Ship Database: Search for the Baltic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Line Official Number: 118101 Master: F E Beadnell ...
Name: Lewis Harold Hall Birth Date: 15 Jul 1907 Birth Place: Illinois, USA Death Date: 21 Sep 1969 Death Place: San Francisco County, California, USA Cemetery: Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills) Burial or Cremation Place: Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California, USA Has Bio?: N URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-..
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30 Oct 2015 12:45 |
What about Theodore's? Do you have a copy of his BC? Although I'd followed various Theo's through, they were all born in the USA.
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David
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30 Oct 2015 11:37 |
Yes the birth of John Robert Hall was 5 May 1916 at Birtley Durham UK.
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MargaretM
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30 Oct 2015 11:28 |
Arrival in Usa has the following:
Alice Hall, 45, housewife George Hall, 9 John Robert Hall, 7 Theodore Hall, 3
Heading to Canton, Illinois to join husband and father, George Hall, RR#2, Canton.
John Robert Hall
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Record Image View
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Name: John Robert Hall Arrival Date: 6 Mar 1923 Birth Date: abt 1916 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: burtley Age: 7 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Cedric Search Ship Database: Search for the Cedric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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30 Oct 2015 01:26 |
So many Theodore or Teddy Halls - its difficult to work out which records are relevant. Do you have his UK BC to give an accurate dob?
Name: Theodore R Hall Mother's Maiden Surname: Emery Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918 Registration district: Chester le Street Inferred County: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 1032
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30 Oct 2015 00:57 |
Is this Theodore?
Name: Teddie Hall Respondent: Yes Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1916 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: England Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Map of Home in 1940: View Map Street: Arthington Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: Chicago, Cook, Illinois Residence in 1935: Same Place Citizenship: Naturalized Sheet Number: 11A Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 262 Occupation: Laborer House Owned or Rented: Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 6 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: High School, 3rd year Duration of Unemployment: 130 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work Weeks Worked in 1939: 32 Income: 385 Income Other Sources: No
Household Members: Name Age Teddie Hall 24 Connie Hall 22 - Born Illinois Teddie Hall 1 - Born Illinois - his 'full' name might be Theodore L Hall Jr born Jun 1939.
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30 Oct 2015 00:34 |
Your tree (?) on Ancestry has John Robert Halls' dob as Birth: 5 May 1916 - Durham. Is this confirmed via a BC or from several of the military or other records you've attached?
Arthington is the 1940 street. They lived in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois
US Public Records Index Name: John R Hall Birth Date: 5 May 1916 Address: 8152 Oconnor Dr # O, River Grove, IL, 60171-3200 (1989)
At the same address & 1993 Name: Marie M Hall Birth Date: 15 Mar 1918 Phone Number: 453-1863 Address: 8152 Oconnor Dr # O, River Grove, IL, 60171-3200 (1989)
Her SSDI Name: Marie M. Hall SSN: 353-03-6700 Last Residence: 60171 River Grove, Cook, Illinois, USA BORN: 15 Mar 1918 Died: Nov 1995 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)
You already have his findagrave entry
Name: John R Hall Birth Date: 5 May 1916 Death Date: 8 Oct 2002 Cemetery: Irving Park Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Chicago, Cook County, Illinois, USA Has Bio?: N
You've got John pretty well covered - what were you hoping to find?
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David
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29 Oct 2015 22:42 |
Looking for John Robert Hall born Birtley Durham UK 1916 and his brother Theodore R Hall born Birtley Durham 1918, sons of George William Hall and Alice Emery-Lawton both brothers emigrated to the US in 1923.
The family settled in the Arthington area of Chicargo.
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