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HAYTER Family originating in Wiltshire mid 1800's and the branch of the Hayter's STARTING in about 1934 IN HARARE ZIMBABWE My Maternal Grandmother's brother Clifford Norman Hayter (b1906),Emigrated in 1924 can any one help? Please with the Zimbabwe info? i,e. was his wife a native ?
He was the Chief Hortculturalist in the research department in Rhodesia when he retired in 1966.
Thank you.

Welcome to the boards, Stairway.

There's info about Zimbabwe BMD's here:

http://tinyurl.com/o5ckdp6

For our reference,from a tree on Ancestry (which also includes photos and a newspaper clipping about his retirement):

When Clifford Norman Hayter was born on May 13, 1906, in Salisbury, Wiltshire, his father, Frank, was 44 and his mother, Grace, was 35. He married Lydis Elizabeth May Sims on September 3, 1936. They had one child during their marriage. He died in 1992 in Harare, Mashonaland East, Zimbabwe, at the age of 86.

Lydis Elizabeth May Sims was born on August 30, 1907, in Southampton County, Virginia to Mr. Sims.
30 August 1907 • Portsmouth, Southampton
[EDIT: that's wrong - she was born in Devon, England - see birth record below]



From FreeBMD:

Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
SIMS Lydia Elizabeth M Totnes 5b 152

I can't see her in the 1911 census - presumably her family went to Rhodesia before then, although I can't see any travel record either.

found these two


Name Charles Samuel Hayter
Event Type Death
Event Date 31 Jul 1950
Event Place Umtali, Zimbabwe
Gender Male
Age 71
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879

Name Roan Hayter
Event Type Death
Event Date 22 Dec 1973
Event Place Salisbury, Zimbabwe
Gender Male
Age 0
Birth Year (Estimated) 1973

Does read Lydia.


Devon Baptisms Transcription
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First name(s) Lydia Elizabeth May
Last name Sims
Birth year -
Baptism year 1907
Baptism date 29 Sep 1907
Denomination Anglican
Baptism place Buckfastleigh
Father's first name(s) William Aaron, farmer of Loverscombe Farm, Buckfastleigh
Mother's first name(s) Emma Jane Honeywell
County Devon
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 3639A/PR/1/6


Her parents' marriage.




Devon Marriages Transcription
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First name(s) William Aaron
Last name Sims
Age 21
Birth year 1885
Marriage year 1906
Marriage date 11 Oct 1906
Place Buckfastleigh
Residence Buckfastleigh
Father's first name Aaron
Father's last name Sims
Spouse's first name(s) Emma Jane Honeywell
Spouse's last name Churchward
Spouse age 23
Spouse's residence Buckfastleigh
Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert
Spouse's father's last name Churchward
County Devon
Denomination Anglican


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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) EMMA JANE H
Last name SIMS
Gender Female
Birth day 23
Birth month 10
Birth year 1882
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1972
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 7A
Page 1585




England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) WILLIAM AARON
Last name SIMMS
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 9
Birth year 1885
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1978
District PLYMOUTH
County Devon
Volume 21
Page 1604

from a Public Tree on ancestry, you may have your dates wrong ..............


Clifford Norman Hayter

Awarded a British Ministry of Agriculture Scolarship
1930 — Age: 24
Reading University, Berkshire, England
To study Horticulture

Occupation
1933 aprox — Age: 27
Shinfield, Berkshire, England
Horticulturist at University Horticultural Station Shinfield

Residence
1934 5 Apr — Age: 27
10.Aborfield Road, Reading, Berkshire, England

Departure
1934 6 Apr — Age: 27
Southampton, England
Age: 27


evidence from Ancestry records ..................


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Mr C N Hayter
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 6 Apr 1934
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Cape Town, South Africa
Ship Name: Winchester Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Winchester Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Union Castle Mail Steamship Company Limited
Official Number: 162489
Master: J H Kerbey

from image:-

Last Address in UK:- 10 Arborfield Rd, Reading
Travelling Second Class to Capetown
Profession:- Gardener
Country of Future Permanent Residence:- S, Africa

I don't know whether you have these ..............


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Clifford Hayter
Birth Date: abt 1907
Age: 43
Port of Departure: Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date: 10 Mar 1950
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Capetown Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Capetown Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 166402

from image (very hard to read!!):-

Address in UK:- 10 Tula (??) Rd, Voolrada (??) Salisbury
Profession:- Horticulturist
Country of Permanent Residence:- S. Rhodesia

Travelling with Lydis E. M. Hayter and Gerald Hayter (age 5)



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Mr C N Hayter
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1907
Departure Date: 9 Aug 1950
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Beira, Mozambique
Ship Name: Dunnottar Castle
Search Ship Database: Search for the Dunnottar Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Union Castle Mail Steamship Company Limited
Official Number: 164637
Master: W S Byles

from image:-

Last Address in UK:- 10 Vale Rd, Woodfalls, Salisbury
Profession:- Horticulturist
Country of Future Permanent Residence:- S. Rhodesia

Travelling with Mrs L. E. (age 42) and Master G. (age 5)




Do remember that at this time you are looking for information from Southern Rhodesia, not Zimbabwe.

from that same tree ................


Retirement
1966 13 May — Age: 60
Rhodesia, Eastern Cape, South Africa
Chief Horticulturalist of Research and Specialist Services

Photos of newspaper item on his retirement

Holiday / Family visit
1966 — Age: 60
England

Holiday / Family visit
1972 — Age: 66
England

Holiday / Family visit
1975 — Age: 69
England

Holiday / Family visit
1977 — Age: 71
England

Residence
1982 — Age: 76
21, Boscobel Drive, East Highlands, Salisbury, Zimbabwe

Address
1988 12 Jul — Age: 82
13, Derwent Lodge, 9,Montagu Ave, Harare, Zimbabwe
on correspondance

Death
1992 — Age: 86
Harare, Zimbabwe




some of the details on this tree seem to indicate a family member who was actually in contact with Clifford

Here is the 1911 for Lydia's family. She appears to be called May in this.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Loverscombe Buckfastleigh Devon, East Buckfastleigh, Devon, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Aaron Sims Head Married Male Farmer Mixed 62 1849 Devon Buckfastleigh
Transcription
Lydia Sims Wife Married Female Farmer's Wife 59 1852 Cornwall Callington
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William Sims Son Married Male Work On Farm 25 1886 Devon Buckfastleigh
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Emma Sims Daughter Married Female Dairy Work 28 1883 Devon Buckfastleigh
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May Sims Grandchild - Female - 3 1908 Devon Buckfastleigh

message sent to poster advising there is info on here now

To you all :-) One big THANK YOU !
Also please accept my apologies for not picking this up sooner.
I will take note of the info you have found and investegate some more.

I hope none of you spent any of your hard earned dosh in digging around !

Yours
Stairway
:-D

Hi Stairway ............


glad we could help

Don't worry ............ we all have subscriptions to different sites that we use for our own research, and also to help others :-D

You would be told if a site needed money to access, and so most helpers wouldn't look ........... for example, Scotland's People is a pay-per-view site.