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19 Oct 2015 18:06 |
I have an 1884 marriage transcription from Australia for William Robert age 27. He states that he was born in London and that his parents were John and Ellen Smith. His father's occupation was Inland Revenue Officer. Can someone have a look and see if they can find him in census please?
Addendum - when the wife died her name was spelt Smyth
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Gee
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19 Oct 2015 20:35 |
Hi Ed
You might need to buy the marriage certificate to check the full details of names and ages
When/where were the BM's of the couple please?
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19 Oct 2015 20:39 |
I wonder ?????????????????
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: William Smith Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 8 Jan 1854 Father's name: John Smith Mother's name: Ellen Smith Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Mary Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
from image:-
The name in the Parish Register is actually Robert William Smith
Father occupation:- Coal Merchant Address:- (hard to read, could be ) ....Kaysland Road
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SylviaInCanada
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19 Oct 2015 20:45 |
Have you any idea when he emigrated to Australia???
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ArgyllGran
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19 Oct 2015 21:31 |
What was William's occupation?
Which part of Australia was he living in when he married?
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Ed
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19 Oct 2015 21:35 |
No idea when he immigrated. I am following Marie Emma Tarrant (1848 Hampstead) Some of her brothers went to Australia and I thought she may have also gone. Problem is her age and fathgers occupation do not match so not sure how accurate William's info is. The info for William Robert is taken from the church register William was a plumber
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malyon
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19 Oct 2015 22:13 |
William Robert Smith England and Wales Birth Registration Index Name William Robert Smith Event Type Birth Registration Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year 1857 Registration District St. George Southwark County London Event Place St. George Southwark, London, England Volume 1D Page 117 Line Number 12
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malyon
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19 Oct 2015 22:21 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree William Robert Smith mentioned in the record of Thomas Andrew Smith and Ellen Whitmore Name William Robert Smith Gender Male Son Thomas Andrew Smith Other information in the record of Thomas Andrew Smith and Ellen Whitmore from Australia Marriages Name Thomas Andrew Smith Spouse's Name Ellen Whitmore Spouse's Birth Date 1870 Spouse's Age 21 Event Date 09 Jul 1891 Event Place Geraldton, Western Australia, Australia Father's Name William Robert Smith Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Whitmore Marital Status Single Spouse's Marital Status Single
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malyon
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19 Oct 2015 22:27 |
William Smith mentioned in the record of William Smith and Sarah Susannah Connor Name William Smith Spouse's Name Sarah Susannah Connor Event Date 24 May 1884 Event Place , Tasmania, Australia
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Ed
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19 Oct 2015 22:49 |
Sorry but forgot this info
They were living in Darlinghurst, Sydney
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Oct 2015 07:39 |
2617/1884 SMITH WILLIAM R TARRANT MARIA E GLEBE
(reference as above, from below link)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx
Chris :)
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Births Dec 1848 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Tarrant Maria Edith Hampstead 3 222
(Ancestry. London Baptism)
Maria Edith Tarrant 13 Dec 1848 (Born Nov 11) Hampstead St John Camden Alfred Tarrant, Mary Ann Tarrant (Father occ., Book Binder)
edits (above coming up on google, relating)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=732211.9
(Received the marriage cert
William Robert Smith, bachelor, born London, plumber, age 27, parents John and Ellen Smith, fathers occupation Inland Revenue Officer. Maria Edith Tarrant spinster, born London, lady's companion, 29(1855), Alfred and Mary Ann Tarrant, fathers occupation picture dealer. Witnesses Richard A Tarrant and Charlotte Warner
Still do not know if she is mine. Parents,her birthplace and witness(Richard A-brother) agrees with my Maria. Age and father's occupation do not agree. My Maria born 1848 and her fathers occupation is always bookbinder.)
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Gee
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20 Oct 2015 08:36 |
Are these the correct details?
Name:William R Smith
Spouse Name: Maria E Tarrant
Marriage Date:1884
Marriage Place:New South Wales
Registration Place:Glebe, New South Wales
Registration Year:1884
Registration Number:2617 ------------------------------------------------------------
Name: Maria E Smyth
Death Date:1887
Death Place:New South Wales
Father's name:Alfred
Mother's name:Mary A
Registration Year:1887
Registration Place:Goulburn, New South Wales
Registration Number:5884
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ArgyllGran
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20 Oct 2015 10:40 |
This looks like Maria Edith's father's death and probate - and he's described as a print seller, which would match with "picture dealer".
Alfred Tarrant in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Alfred Tarrant Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Registration Year: 1877 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 58 Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 42
Alfred Tarrant in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Alfred Tarrant Probate Date: 14 Sep 1877 Registry: Principal Registry Death Date: 7 Aug 1877 Death Place: Surrey, England
The Will of Alfred Tarrant late of 2 Melbourne Square, Brixton in the county of Surrey, Printseller, who died 7 August 1877 at Bethlehem Hospital, Southwark, in the said county was proved at the Principal Registry by Elizabeth Hayman Tarrant, widow, the relict, and Percy Tarrant, Gentleman, the Son, both of 2 Melbourne Square, the Executors.
This will have been his second marriage: Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%) HARBEN Elizabeth Hayman Edmonton 3a 273 TARRANT Alfred Edmonton 3a 273
The family in 1871:
Alfred Tarrant in the 1871 England Census Name: Alfred Tarrant Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: London City Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington Second ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 59 Piece: 676 Folio: 13 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Tarrant 51 - bookseller Edith Tarrant 22 - born Hampstead Owen Tarrant 20 Allan Tarrant 18 Percy Tarrant 15 Maurice Tarrant 14 Nasim Clayton 18 - servant
Maria Edith Tarrant in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Maria Edith Tarrant Registration Year: 1848 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Hampstead Inferred County: London Volume: 3 Page: 222
I don't see a brother Richard, though, in any census. So is this a different family, as you suspect?
Alfred Tarrant in the 1861 England Census Name: Alfred Tarrant Age: 41 Estimated birth year: 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Tarrant Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Brixton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Piece: 363 Folio: 140 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Tarrant 41 Mary A Tarrant 43 Frank Tarrant 14 Celeth Tarrant 12 (Edith mistranscribed) Annie Tarrant 11 Allen Tarrant 8 Percy Tarrant 5 Maurice Tarrant 4 Maria Hall 44 - sister Sarah Hollidge 27 - servant
Alfred Tarrant in the 1851 England Census Name: Alfred Tarrant Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Tarrant Gender: Male Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Clapham Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Clapham ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Piece: 1576 Folio: 123 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Tarrant 31 Mary Ann Tarrant 33 Edith Tarrant 2 Anne Tarrant 1 Elizabeth Peters 22 - servant Fanny Phelps 18 - servant
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ArgyllGran
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20 Oct 2015 10:47 |
Is this Richard, away at school?
Richard A Tarrant
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Richard A Tarrant Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Pupil Gender: Male Where born: Brixton, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Herne Ecclesiastical parish: Church Town: Herne Bay County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Blean Sub-registration district: Herne ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 179 Piece: 973 Folio: 112 Page Number: 34
Births Dec 1863 (>99%) TARRANT Richard Arthur Lambeth 1d 410
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ArgyllGran
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20 Oct 2015 10:50 |
Long shot:
Miss E Tarrant in the New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Name: Miss E Tarrant Port of Departure: Melbourne Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 22 Jul 1872 Vessel Name: City Of Adelaide
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Oct 2015 12:31 |
MR. R. A. TARRANT.
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Saturday 21 May 1932 p 18 MR. R. A. TARRANT. Mr. Richard Arthur Tarrant, whose remains were cremated at Rookwood yesterday ...
(mention of brother Percy, Artist)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
(from above)
Chris :)
8401/1932 TARRANT RICHARD A ALFRED MAY A BURWOOD
(NSW BDM)
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Ed
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20 Oct 2015 12:41 |
Thanks. The info posted is what I have. Brothers Allan, Owen and Richard all went to Australia. I have their marriages(Richard did not marry) and deaths. Appears that Maria also ended up there. Familysearch has a burial for a William Robert Smith 21 Jun 1894 Geraldton W.A. with a year of birth 1848. I suspect this is the person refered to in earlier post and probably not mine.
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