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brummiejan
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5 Oct 2015 15:25 |
Please can you kind folks help me before I go completely mad! Brace yourselves.
I am trying to find Kate Flory Booth (apparently born Wolverhampton abt. 1870) prior to her marriage to James Edward Myatt. Census and marriage details given below.
There is a witness Mary Maria Caddy, who is without question the Mary Maria Booth who married Thomas Caddy in 1874. Apart from anything else, she & husband are living in Howe St. 1881, which is the address given by James and Kate on their marriage cert.
Mary Booth was born Bushbury Staffs 1855 - I have no idea if related to Kate, or in what way. I am able to locate her on census but no obvious link.
Thanks for looking!
Jan
Name: Kate Llory Booth [Kate Flory Booth] Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1867 Marriage Date: 4 Feb 1889 Marriage Age: 22 Marriage Place: Ashted, St James the Less, Warwickshire, England Spouse: James Edward Myatt Spouse Gender: Male Spouse Marriage Age: 26 Father: John Booth Spouse's Father: Thomas Myatt Reference Number: DRO 10 Archive Roll: 641
1891 census
Name: Kate F Myatt Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James E Myatt Gender: Female Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Oldham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Oldham County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Oldham Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
James E Myatt 28 Kate F Myatt 21
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brummiejan
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5 Oct 2015 16:16 |
Just to say - I can see a few people are looking, thanks for that. Off out about 4.45pm so if you do reply, I might be a bit late responding.
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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°
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5 Oct 2015 16:17 |
I think she came down from space!
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AustinQ
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5 Oct 2015 16:18 |
Mary Maria Caddy- the witness, was Mary M Booth:
Marriage: First name(s) THOMAS CHALONER Last name CADDY Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1874 MarriageFinder™ THOMAS CHALONER CADDY married one of these people MARY MARIA BOOTH, LAURA MEADS District BIRMINGHAM County Warwickshire Volume 6D Page 114 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Not that it helps much!
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Andysmum
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5 Oct 2015 16:23 |
There is a Kate A Booth registered in Dudley in 1866.
It is always possible that the birth wasn't registered, like several of my ancestors! Very inconsiderate of them!! :-|
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5 Oct 2015 16:24 |
Think this is Mary Maria so trying to work forward from it ( in the absence of finding Kate !)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Booth Head Married Male 36 1825 Agricultural Carter Eccleshall, Staffordshire, England Mary Booth Wife Married Female 38 1823 - Lilleshall, Shropshire, England William Booth Son Unmarried Male 80 1781 Scholar Bushbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription Samuel Booth Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Bushbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription Mary Booth Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Bushbury, Staffordshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Joseph Booth Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Bushbury, Staffordshire, England Transcription Elizabeth Booth Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Bushbury, Staffordshire, England Emily Booth Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Bushbury, Staffordshire, England Matthew H Booth Son - Male 0 1861 - Bushbury, Staffordshire, England
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5 Oct 2015 16:31 |
I am still looking :-)
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brummiejan
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5 Oct 2015 16:32 |
Thanks all. Not just me having trouble then! I did wonder if she might have been 'adopted'. Or an alien, as you say Claire!
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5 Oct 2015 19:23 |
This may be the Kate A
Kate Agnes Booth Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1870 Baptism Place: Ladywood, St John, Warwickshire, England Father: James Booth Mother: Elizabeth Booth Reference Number: DRO 82 Archive Roll: M166
So not your girl (wrong father, James instead of John)
Strange this..
1901 census
Name: Florence Myatt Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: James Myatt Birth Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Search Photos: Search for 'Wolverhampton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2679 Folio: 141 Page Number: 9 Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age James Myatt 37 Florence Myatt 31 Annie M Myatt 13
Annie is a daughter. Yet in 1911 they declare no children
Jude
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BeverleyW
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5 Oct 2015 20:51 |
There is a Florence Amelia Booth born in Wolverhampton in 1869 to John and Lydia. Baptised 20th October in Jeath Town, Wolverhampton. Address 20 Church Street. Father a labourer.
That's the nearest I can get.
Name John Booth Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Bloxwich, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Enumeration District 8 Gender Male Age 25 Marital Status Married Occupation Labourer Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1846 Birthplace Bushbury, Staffordshire
John Booth Head M 25 Bushbury, Staffordshire Lydia Booth Wife F 22 Bloxwich, Staffordshire George Booth Son M 6 Bloxwich, Staffordshire Florance Booth Daughter F 1 Bloxwich, Staffordshire
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5 Oct 2015 21:00 |
Justt putting this here because it does tie in with birthdate
Deaths Mar 1917 (>99%)
Myatt Florence A 47 Wolverhampton 6b 785
I think this one is more likely to be the Florence Amelia Myatt born 1874?
Deaths Sep 1936 (>99%) Myatt Florence A 63 Stoke T. 6b 249
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malyon
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5 Oct 2015 22:15 |
could kate be born catherine
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malyon
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5 Oct 2015 22:45 |
is this james myatt in 1881
o: Search Results COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Jas Edwd Myatt England and Wales Census, 1881 Name Jas Edwd Myatt Age (Original) 17 Gender Male Birth Year 1864 Birthplace Handsworth, Staffordshire, England Relationship to Head of Household Son Marital Status Single Occupation Machinist In Engine Shop (E&M) Address 105 Peel St Event Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Record Type Household Affiliate Publication Number RG11 Piece/Folio 3008 / 39 Page Number 20 HOUSEHOLD
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Thomas Myatt Head M 45 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Mary Ann Myatt Wife F 45 Manchester, Lancashire, England Jno Thos Myatt Son M 20 Crewe, Cheshire, England Jas Edwd Myatt Son M 17 Handsworth, Staffordshire, England Geo Henry Myatt Son M 14 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Thos H Myatt Son M 8 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Mary A Myatt Daughter F 6 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Clara Myatt Daughter F 4 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Leonard Myatt Son M 3 Birmm, Warwickshire, England
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5 Oct 2015 22:45 |
1901 with daughter Annie,looks like she was born before marriage 1891 Anna Booth with parents of Florence A Booth John and Lydia John Booth was brother to Mary Booth the witness to James E Myatt wedding So 1911 is correct as there was no children to the marriage as Annie born before
It certainly looks like Kate was Florence Amelia Booth
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5 Oct 2015 23:07 |
And in 1881 john's occupation is coal miner which matches the marriage cert. wonder why she claimed to be 22 at marriage?
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malyon
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5 Oct 2015 23:14 |
could be kate in 1881
Attach to Family Tree Kate Booth England and Wales Census, 1881 Name Kate Booth Age (Original) 14 Gender Female Birth Year 1867 Birthplace Netherton, Worcestershire, England Relationship to Head of Household Servant Marital Status Single Occupation Nursemaid Domestic Address 259 Monument Rd Event Place Edgbaston (Warwick), Worcestershire, England Record Type Household Affiliate Publication Number RG11 Piece/Folio 2955 / 76 Page Number 14 HOUSEHOLD
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Edwin J Stoner Head M 33 Lambeth, Warwickshire, England Ellen Stoner Wife F 32 Marylebone, Warwickshire, England Edwin J Stoner Son M 5 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Alice J Stoner Daughter F 7 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Nellie Stoner Daughter F 0 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Esther Davis Servant F 20 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Kate Booth Servant F 14 Netherton, Worcestershire, England
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Oct 2015 07:23 |
(can see below)
County Staffordshire Place Bloxwich Church name All Saints Register type Register entry number 117 Marriage date 01 Apr 1866 Groom forename John Groom surname BOOTH Groom age 20 Groom condition bachelor Groom abode Bloxwich Groom occupation Forge Man Bride forename Lydia Bride surname CHIDLOW Bride age 19 Bride condition spinster Bride abode Bloxwich Groom father forename Thomas Groom father surname BOOTH Groom father occupation Lab Bride father forename George Bride father surname CHIDLOW Bride father occupation Miner Witness1 forename Levi Witness1 surname ATHERSMITH Witness2 forename Sarah Witness2 surname TOTTY
Baptism Baptism date 20 Oct 1869 Person forename Florence Amelia Person sex F Person abode Church Street Father forename John Father surname BOOTH Father occupation Labourer Mother forename Lydia
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1866
BOOTH George Thomas Bloxwich Walsall Register Office BLX/017/091
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php
Chris :)
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brummiejan
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6 Oct 2015 10:08 |
Good morning everyone. Firstly, a big thank-you for all your work, and for the suggestions.
Firstly, I think the death looks pretty likely, thanks RRose.
Jude, I had noted the 'daughter' Ann in 1901, was saving that for later, but you beat me to it! However, she does seem to be the key, thanks to someone for finding her 1891 - I am losing track a bit regarding who did what!
John's birthplace is compelling isn't it.
It does look like Kate might well be Florence Amelia, though I do have a niggle or two. Why change her names so much? And why the Wolverhampton birthplace if she was born in Bloxwich, quite a different place? I shall probably never know!
I can't find John and Mary Booth together as siblings either, but putting everything together, the John in Bloxwich must really be her father I think.
Much appreciated everyone.
Jan x
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6 Oct 2015 10:53 |
1841 Thomas booth 1823 eccleshall staffs son in law to Mathew key head of house Mary booth 1825 nee key John 1847 bushbury Sarah 2 William 5month
1861 Wednesfield staffs Samuel keay dad Matthew keay (this looks like Mary Key's brother so would be John's uncle) Emily wife nee Sadler married 1859. John Booth 1846 servant. 1861 Thomas and Mary with daughter Mary age 6 no John but it is the same family. 1871Thomas Bood 1881 Thomas Bood
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malyon
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6 Oct 2015 12:23 |
my mother inlaw was born florence ivy but called herself mary she hated her birth name i never knew her birth name till she died
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