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2 Oct 2015 15:29 |
Having had a clea look of census returns etc I see now that two Alexander Holliday's appear to have been in the US at the same time on various boats, one born in Hexham and the other Liverpool.
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David
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29 Sep 2015 17:16 |
Alexander's parents are as you have posted Catherine, Joseph Holliday 1848-1935 and Mary Sanderson 1848-1898 who married at Hexham in 1870.
They had the following James 1871-1896, Jane 1873-1955, Alice 1875-1903, Mary Annie 1877-1963, George 1880-1968, John 1882-1953, Hannah Lizzie 1884-1981, Florence 1886-1913 and Alexander 25 June 1888-
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 16:25 |
So this must be him
Name: Alexander Holliday Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Halliday Mother's name: Mary Halliday Gender: Male Where born: Hexham, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Hexham Ecclesiastical parish: Hexham Town: Hexham County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Hexham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4246 Folio: 117 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Halliday 43 ---Coachman Mary Halliday 43 Alice Halliday 15 Mary A Halliday 13 George Holliday 11 John Holliday 9 Hannah L Holliday 7 Florence Holliday 5 Alexander Holliday 2
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 16:21 |
If you think that this family is definately not your Alexander, then are you sure that your Alexander joined the Navy as the naval records seem to fit with above family. Maybe then your Alexander did something else????
Do you have his birth certificate? If not, then this will be essential to find out his parents names.
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David
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29 Sep 2015 16:12 |
Alexander Holliday born in Hexham had no connection to Liverpool this is a different family who originated from that city.
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 16:11 |
Elizabeth in 1891 with brother Alexander
Name: Elizabeth Holliday Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Adam Holliday Mother's name: Elizabeth Gibson Holliday Gender: Female Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: West Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: West Derby (Municipal) ED, institution, or vessel: 19a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2991 Folio: 44 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Adam Holliday 52 born: Lowswater, Cumberland, Elizabeth Gibson Holliday 51 born: Workington, Cumberland Elizabeth Holliday 17 William Holliday 14 born: Liverpool, Lancashire, Clara Holliday 11 Alexander Holliday 5 born: Liverpool, Lancashire
Same family in 1901:- Name: Adam Holliday Age: 62 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Elizabeth Holliday Birth Place: Ullswater, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: West Derby Search Photos: Search for 'West Derby' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Kensington and West Derby Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Tailor View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: West Derby, Western ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3491 Folio: 36 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Adam Holliday 62 Elizabeth Holliday 61 xxxx Elizabeth Aiken 27 Clara Holliday 21 Robert Holliday 18 (brother)
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David
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29 Sep 2015 16:09 |
My Alexander was born 25 June 1888 in Hexham, Northumberland so his certificate no is 10b 304
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 16:01 |
Ooops sorry Chris Ho, but great minds and all that. :-)
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Sep 2015 15:58 |
1911 (Find My Past) Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool 14 Gilroy Road Boaler St Liverpool, West Derby, Lancashire
(possibly above)
Chris :)
Births Mar 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653
(not sure on below though, confusing, perhaps he wasn't 'Naval' at all!)
Births Sep 1888 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- HOLLIDAY Alexander Hexham 10b 304
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 15:53 |
Marriage for sister perhaps?
Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%) xxxx Aiken William Stewart R W. Derby 8b 928 Bamber Sarah Jane W. Derby 8b 928 xxxx Holliday Elizabeth West Derby 8b 928 Randles Richard W. Derby 8b 928
.............and her in 1911:-
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Elizabeth Aiken Head Married Female Dressmaker 37 1874 Cumberland Workington Transcription Lilian Aiken Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription William Aiken Son - Male - 0 1911 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription Robert Holliday Brother Single Male Assurance Clerk 28 1883 Lancashire Liverpool
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Sep 2015 15:49 |
Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919 (Ancestry)
(another for A. Holliday 1907 'Matador', same address, 191, Boaler St.)
Chris :)
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2015 15:23 |
Same one again ??? But also in 1913:
Alexander Halliday
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Name: Alexander Halliday Gender: Male Age: 27 Birth Year: abt 1886 Birth Country: England Date of Arrival: 2 Aug 1913 Vessel: Empress of Russia Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Occupation: Seaman Destination: San Francisco
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ArgyllGran
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29 Sep 2015 15:19 |
This looks like the same man in 1913.
Alexander Halliday
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956 Name: Alexander Halliday Arrival Date: Aug 1913 Port of Arrival: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Ship Name: Canadian Pacific Railroad Residence Country: Canada Age: 27 Birth Date: abt 1886 Birth Country: England Gender: Male Race/Nationality: English Record Type: Manifests Line Number: 4
Last permanent address: Vancouver. Destination: Australia Occupation: Sailor NOK: His sister, Mrs W Aiken (?), 166 Boaler, Liverpool. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Catherine
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29 Sep 2015 14:36 |
If he was due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909, then my posting looks like it could very well be your man as event date is 5 April 1909 and this was the date he is noted as being finished his service on the ship Idomeneus. Doesn't help find him afterwards but does give you a little more info on him.
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David
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29 Sep 2015 11:35 |
Thanks Chris, he was due according to records due to finish his apprenticeship in April 1909.
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Chris Ho :)
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29 Sep 2015 07:45 |
(another below also, New Orleans (Ancestry) Steward)
A Holliday abt 1889 23 Mar 1910 Colon (Ship Name) Abangarez
Walter Runciman info. on google, and Cargo Ship "Westmoor" 112736
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_boat_(ship) (Abangarez)
http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/2441.html
(Parismina)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit_Company
Chris :)
(did he finish his apprenticeship?...or perhaps went to America, and found work on above)
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28 Sep 2015 21:58 |
http://www.albertagenealogy-research.ca/Data/Papers/1990-1994C/CalgaryDeathsPage341.html
(HOLLIDAY, Alexander Frederick 1990. Age 102)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=holliday&GSiman=1&GScid=2130381&GRid=139858285&
(perhaps relates to Canada one)
Chris :)
(Boaler Street one perhaps)
Births Mar 1886 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------- HOLLIDAY Alexander W.Derby 8b 653
(Reference to 1905)
All UK, Apprentices Indentured in Merchant Navy, 1824-1910 (Ancestry)
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Catherine
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28 Sep 2015 21:34 |
Maybe relevant?
A Holliday in the Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919
Name: A Holliday Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1887 Birth Place: Liverpool Event Date: 5 Apr. 1909 Port of Registry: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ship Name: Idomeneus Official Number: 110555 Reference Number: 387CRE/433
Address given:- 191 Boaler Street Capacity:- AB (An able seaman (AB) is an unlicensed member of the deck department of a merchant ship.)
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28 Sep 2015 19:28 |
David ................
just so you know, the helpers tend to post information as they find it, eg a census or two, as that helps us all to get our heads round the details of this man.
You've been working on him for years, we're coming to it blind.
So think of the work duplicated as being help for US
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David
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28 Sep 2015 19:11 |
Hi I have all those links except the waiter on the ship, I have also gone through the local newspaper from 1901-1912 but nothing. I also have a copy of his Father's obituary in December 1935 and there is no mention of him.
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