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5 Sep 2015 16:59 |
As I said earlier....
Her death to complete circle...note DOB and the order of her names!
Name: Germaine Louise S Brooks Birth Date: 7 Dec 1897
and I did wonder about this...it doesn't look like Merrion on the original
First name(s) Germaine Last name Merrien Relationship Inmate Marital status Single Sex Female Occupation Student Age 15 Birth year 1896 Birth place France Resident Address Peverel Devonport The Reverend E Aureille Parish Devonport County Devon Country England Archive reference RG14 Registration district Devonport Registration district number 278 Enumeration district 22 District number - Sub district Stoke Sub district number 2 Census reference RG14PN13047 RD278 SD2 ED22 SN9999 Piece number 13047
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Gerry
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5 Sep 2015 16:38 |
Hi Marie
You may well be right although Germaine did describe herself as being a "wife" in 1921 she went to Cherbourg
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5 Sep 2015 15:44 |
Not seeing a marriage in the armed forces or British nationals overseas indices.
That was why I wondered about WW1, the army probably had a lot of other things to do and keeping tabs on soldiers marrying whilst over there may not have been a priority. There may be a record in France but not on-line.
There are two medal cards for men called Frank Thomas Brooks who were in the RAMC. Not necessarily yours but ......
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Gerry
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5 Sep 2015 15:37 |
Thank you Marie & Hey Jude
Germaine went back and forth to Cherbourg almost annually during 20s and 30s. The last trips were 1951 and 1952.
I suspect Germaine and Frank were married in France as I can find no trace in UK
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5 Sep 2015 08:02 |
I would be wary of this - Marian/Marion isn't an uncommon surname and this may be someone else altogether:
Marne, France Births Name: Germaine-Suzanne MARION Place of Origin: Reims Birth Date: 14 oct. 1892 Birth Location: Reims Comments: Tables decennales 125M
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5 Sep 2015 07:57 |
Numerous passenger lists for Germaine all giving birth year c1898. First one I see is in 1921, she's a French national and heading to 8 Amnor Road London.
Perhaps he met her during WW1?
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5 Sep 2015 07:39 |
Her death to complete circle...note DOB and the order of her names!
Name: Germaine Louise S Brooks Birth Date: 7 Dec 1897 Date of Registration: Jun 1977 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Hendon Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 13 Page: 0452
06 April 1977 88 Deans Lane Edgeware £14,881
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5 Sep 2015 01:30 |
Destination port was Cherbourg in 1929.
It also seems they had another child Francis L( born abt 1929) as he is with her on another trip to Cherbourg in 1938. At the moment I cannot find a record of Francis' birth.
Seems as though Frank always has to stay at home!
I have FMP but no luck so far on marriage
Time I went to bed. Thank you so much for your help
Gerry :-D
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5 Sep 2015 01:01 |
Some one with access to FMP or GR records may be able to find a marriage under the military records. A free search didn't throw one up.
Its possible that either they didn't marry, married later than you thought, or she was widowed and married under the first husband's surname.
French marriages are registered under the Departement. If the passenger list gave a destination address, that might be a clue. Similarly if you knew where Frank was stationed.
Is there anything on Familysearch? It may be too recent + their French BMD are a rather sketchy
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Gerry
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5 Sep 2015 00:45 |
Brilliant stuff. Never thought to look at probate.
We now have most of it. Just a marriage to find!! Lol
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5 Sep 2015 00:39 |
You've obviously know your way around Ancestry - so have fun :-D
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5 Sep 2015 00:38 |
The London ER on Ancestry don't give every year. The first one with Germaine on is
Name: Frank Thomas Brooks Year: 1928 County or Borough: Barnet Ward or Division/Constituency: Hendon Street address: 16 Colchester Rd
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Gerry
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5 Sep 2015 00:37 |
Hi. Thanks for your help.
As I said in my update I have found Germaine born in France 1892 so I am inclined towards the Frank born about same time ie 1892 Essex.
I have now also found Germaine and Raymond going to Cherbourg in 1829
First name(s) GERMAINE
Last name BROOKS
Gender Female
Departure year 1929
Departure day 99
Departure month 5
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port CHERBOURG
Destination CHERBOURG
Country FRANCE
Destination country FRANCE
Ship name BERENGARIA
Ship official number 144301
Ship master's first name W
Ship master's last name PROTHERS
Shipping line CUNARD.
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
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5 Sep 2015 00:31 |
Name: Frank T Brooks Birth Date: abt 1892 Date of Registration: Jun 1951 Age at Death: 59 Registration district: Hendon Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 5e Page: 462
Name: Frank Thomas Brooks Probate Date: 14 Aug 1951 Registry: London, England Death Date: 8 May 1951 Death Place: London, England
BROOKS Frank Thomas of 88 Deans-lane Hendon London died 8 May 1951 Administration London 14 August to Germaine Louise Suzanne Brooks widow and Raymond Charles Jules Brooks commercial clerk. £4931 6s 5d
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5 Sep 2015 00:25 |
Possibly Frank's birth
Name: Frank Thomas Brooks Registration Year: 1892 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 234
Can you follow through with this or would like additional suggestions?
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5 Sep 2015 00:21 |
Possibly?
1911 Name: Frank Thomas Brooks Age in 1911: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Essex, England Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 91 Manchuria Road, Clapham Common, Battersea S W Marital Status: Single Occupation: DRAPERS ASSISTANT Registration district: Wandsworth Registration District Number: 26 Sub-registration district: South West Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Piece: 2247 Household Members: Name Age Dinah Brooks 51 Ethel May Brooks 25 Frank Thomas Brooks 18 Ivy Brooks 16 Although its crossed out, the image says that Dinah was a widow who had been married 22 years and had 4 children, all living
1901 Name: Frank Thomas Brooks Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Chas F Brooks Mother: Dina Brooks Birth Place: Maner Park, Essex, England Civil Parish: Battersea Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Wandsworth Common County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Southwest Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Piece: 459 Folio: 16 Page Number: 24 Household schedule number: 183 Household Members: Name Age Chas F Brooks 42 Dina Brooks 41 Winifred Brooks 16 Ethel May Brooks 15 Frank Thomas Brooks 8 Ivy Brooks 6
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5 Sep 2015 00:18 |
Well done!
Looking at some of the London ER, he is listed at the same address from 1918, so must have been born 1897 or before.
In 1920, a Dinah Brooks is also listed who may be a female relative
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5 Sep 2015 00:17 |
IS THIS ANY HELP....FOUND HERE ON GENES
MARCELLE L A S GERMAIN
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Collections from Great Britain Country England County London Year 1947 Birth Year1880 Age 67 Event Quarter2 District BATTERSEA
From this you maybe able to find her on the 1911 census
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4 Sep 2015 23:41 |
Raymond Charles Jules was born 21/3/1921 at 8 Amner Rd Battersea. His father was Frank Thomas Brooks, an army dental Clerk His mother was Germaine (or Jermaine) Suzanne Louise Marion
I can find no record of the marriage and without this I cannot identify the correct Frank Thomas.
Germaine (or Jermaine) Suzanne Louise Marion sounds French to me and I am wondering if they met in France as Frank was working in/for the army
Any ideas/help would be appreciated
Gerry
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