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Thank you Gins, yes I have got this info but thanks to everyone trying to find George's father, it is much appreciated.

I'm guessing Karen has most of this info, she is looking for the father of the child

This is very unlikely that he will be found!

Deaths Sep 1902 (>99%)
Humm Susanna 92 Colchester 4a 361

parents of charity

James Hum
mentioned in the record of James Hum and Susan Gardiner
Name James Hum
Spouse's Name Susan Gardiner
Event Date 28 Apr 1832
Event Place Great Bromley, Essex, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Brook Street, Great Bromley, Tendring, Essex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Hume Head Married Male 49 1812 Cordwainer Ardleigh, Essex, England
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Susannah Hume Wife Married Female 49 1812 - Great Bromley, Essex, England
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Jemima A Hume Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1838 - Great Bromley, Essex, England
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Harriet Hume Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 Scholar Great Bromley, Essex, England
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George Hume Grandson - Male 9 1852 Scholar Great Bromley, Essex, England
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Sarah Hume Granddaughter - Female 1 1860 Scholar Great Bromley, Essex, England

death for charity

Deaths Mar 1912 (>99%)
Barnes Charity S 79 Epping 4a 457

cant find george in 1861 census

County Essex
Place Great Bromley
Church St. George Pr
RegisterNumber 71
MarriageDate 09 Mar 1857
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BARNES
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation Policeman
GroomAbode West Ham
BrideForename Charity Susannah
BrideSurname HUMM
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Great Bromley
GroomFatherForename Thomas
GroomFatherSurname BARNES
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename James
BrideFatherSurname HUMM
BrideFatherOccupation Shoemaker
WitnessOneForename Charles Thomas
WitnessOneSurname STEPHENS
WitnessTwoForename Sarah
WitnessTwoSurname HUMM
Notes After banns. They all sign.
FileNumber 35189

george j death

Deaths Mar 1926 (>99%)
Humm George J 74 Tendring 4a 827

it was barnes she married

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Charity Barnes
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name Charity Barnes
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Sturmere, Sturmere, Suffolk, England
Enumeration District 3b
Gender Female
Age 35
Marital Status Married
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1836
Birthplace Colchester, Essex
Entry Number 2
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/1711/0141
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

John Barnes Head M 37 Shaftesbury, Dorsetshire
Charity Barnes Wife F 35 Colchester, Essex
Annie Barnes Daughter F 10 Dunmow, Essex
Emily Barnes Daughter F 7 Dunmow, Essex
Frank Barnes Son M 4 Essex

she married


Charity Susannah Humm
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Charity Susannah Humm
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1857
Registration District Tendring
County Essex
Event Place Tendring, Essex, England
Volume 4A
Page 213
Line Number 38

Charity Susannah Humm probably married one of the following people
Name James Balls
Name John Barnes
Name Emma Spenceley

this could be his mother


Charity Susanna Hum
England Births and Christenings
Name Charity Susanna Hum
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 May 1833
Christening Place Great Bromley, Essex, England
Father's Name James Hum
Mother's Name Susanna

George Humm
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name George Humm
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Essex
Parish Great Bromley
Sub-District Ardleigh
Registration District Tendring
Gender Male
Age 59
Birthplace Gt Bromley, Essex
Record Type Household

So that's a dead end then :-( thanks anyway for your help

His name is George James Humm/Hum, born 15/06/1851 in Gt Bromley, Essex. His mother's name was Charity Humm but on his birth certificate was father unknown. Also his mother's name was on his marriage certificate.

Does he have a non-family name incorporated in his? That sometimes gives a clue about the father's identity.

Depending when this happened, have you managed to find a baptism for him? Sometimes the priest will make a note of who gossip says is the father.

Members have mentioned finding Court records where the father is told to support the mother and child. They may be able to advise how to research them.

If the birth took place in the last century, unless you can track down relatives who knew the mother, you have probably come to the end of the line.

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Have I reached a dead end? Or is there any other way I can find out about my relative if his father is unknown on his birth certificate? Any ideas gratefully received.