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William(James) FLETCHER

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Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Aug 2015 10:08

BORN Cheshire or Lancashire( of unknown parents) in possibly the 1850s. He was said to be a commercial traveller on the birth cert issued for his Son William James FLETCHER born 1875. His supposed Wife was said to be Alice Hannah FLETCHER nee AUSTIN. I can't find any proof of their marriage. He wasn't on the 1881 Census but his Son and Wife were living in St. Paul's Road Fish shop Tranmere or Rockferry Wirral Cheshire England.
I have been searching for more info regarding him my Great Grandfather for a number of years. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Margaret in Australia.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 5 Aug 2015 10:13

For INFO

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fish Shop, 75, St Pauls Road, Tranmere, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Massey Head Married Male 46 1835 Fisherman Runcorn, Lancashire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Massey Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
Alice H Austin Sister In Law Single Female 26 1855 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
William J Fletcher Nephew Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Rock Ferry, England Transcription


Alice is shown as SINGLE, and in her maiden name, so I'm afraid there's no point in looking for a non-existent marriage

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 5 Aug 2015 10:23

The child's father could have been born virtually anywhere.

What was the address on the birth cert?

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 5 Aug 2015 10:25

Again for info...........

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
17, Watmough Street, St John, Manchester, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Austin Head Married Male 31 1830 Cotton Stretcher Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Ann Austin Wife Married Female 39 1822 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
John Saml Hunt Son Unmarried Male 13 1848 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
Alice H Austin Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription
Emily Austin Daughter Unmarried Female 0 1861 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Aug 2015 10:36

Name William James Fletcher
Event Type Military Service
Event Year 1918
Residence Place Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Age 43
Military Company/Regiment Royal Engineers
Military Regiment WR339065
Military Battalion No 2nd Company,Inland Waterways & Docks
Birth Year (Estimated) 1875
Birthplace Rock Ferry, Cheshire, England

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Aug 2015 10:38

forgot to say - welcome to the boards :-) :-)

Name William James Fletcher
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
County Cheshire
Civil Parish Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical Parish St Paul
Sub-District Tranmere
Registration District Birkenhead
Gender Male
Age 24
Relationship to Head of Household Nephew
Birthplace Rock Ferry, Cheshire
Schedule Type Household

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 5 Aug 2015 10:39

On his Marriage Certificate 20 Jun 1899 to Mary Ellen O'Brien it states that he is 24 a Fisherman, living at 19 St Paul's Rd, Rock Ferry and that his Father was William James Fletcher Deceased ( no occupation).

Researching:
Give a dog a bone!

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Aug 2015 10:41



Name:
William James Fletcher

Birth Date:
2 Jul

Baptism Date:
6 Dec 1875

Parish:
Liverpool, St Peter

Father's name:
William Fletcher

Mother's name:
Alice Fletcher

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 5 Aug 2015 10:44

Welcome to the boards Margaret.

There is a story regarding the son William James Fletcher by a member on Ancestry.

The content is of a sensitive nature......so I will PM the story to Margaret.

There are photo's too.

No details regarding the father William (James) Fletcher except that he "supposedly" married Alice Hannah Austin.

Researching:
"If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Aug 2015 10:44

Name William James Fletcher
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 20 Jun 1899
Event Place St Paul, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Gender Male
Age (Formatted) 24y
Father's Name William James Fletcher
Spouse's Name Mary Ellen O'Brien
Spouse's Father's Name Michael O'Brien

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Aug 2015 11:00


Name Alice Austen
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Broughton, Lancashire, England
Enumeration District 10
Gender Female
Age 16
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Nurse
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Birth Year (Estimated) 1855
Birthplace Manchester, Lancashire
Entry Number 14
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/4014/0106



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

William Hughes Head M 34 Coventry, Warwickshire
Kate Hughes Wife F 31 London, Middlesex
Kate A Hughes Daughter F 7 Manchester, Lancashire
Cecil Hughes Son M 5 Broughton, Lancashire
Mary E Hughes Daughter F 3 Broughton, Lancashire
Sarah A Webster Visitor F 27 Aiskew, Yorkshire
Emily L Mulloney Visitor F 7 Coventry, Warwickshire
Kate Mulloney Visitor F 5 Coventry, Warwickshire
Jane Cross Servant F 34 Prescott, Lancashire
Alice Austen Servant F 16 Manchester, Lancashire

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Aug 2015 11:00

Alice's marriage ??


Marriages Mar 1896

AUSTIN Alice Hannah Birkenhead 8a 639
BANNER William Birkenhead 8a 639
Jones Jane Joy Birkenhead 8a 639
Smith Percival Birkenhead 8a 639

----------------------------

1901

Name:
Alice H Banner

Age:46
Estimated birth year:abt 1855

Relation to Head:Wife
Spouse:William Banner

Birth Place:
Manchester, England

Civil Parish:
Liverpool

William Banner 53
Alice H Banner 46
Mary Banner 19
---------------------------------------


Deaths Dec 1908
BANNER Alice Hannah - 55 - Birkenhead 8a 321

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 5 Aug 2015 11:00

?????????????

Name Alice Austin
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1892
Registration District Wigan
County Lancashire
Event Place Wigan, Lancashire, England
Age (available after 1866) 37
Birth Year (Estimated) 1855
Volume 8C
Page 61
Line Number 20

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Aug 2015 12:13

I'm overwhelmed by the responses of you all Thank you so much. It looks as though my Great Grandfather will remain for ever a mystery but thank you all for giving me so much help in other directions. I will follow it all up in due course. Margaret.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 5 Aug 2015 18:07

1891 Census

ame: James Fletcher
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Tranmere, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Tranmere
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2889
Folio: 62
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Massey 56 b Runcorn Cheshire occ Fisherman
Elizabeth Massey 45 b Manchester
Alice Fletcher 36 Sister in Law Married b Manchester
James Fletcher 15 Nephew occ Fisherman's Apprentice

Address 19 St Paul's Road

Researching:
Give a dog a bone!