Profile | Posted by | Options | Post Date |
|
mgnv
|
Report
|
7 Jul 2015 18:29 |
As an aside, it would have been better if you'd copied and pasted the 1911 transcription into your original post (which everyone could read), rather than the URL pointing to it (which only Ancestry subscribers can read).
|
|
mgnv
|
Report
|
7 Jul 2015 18:21 |
This is a guess - you need James's m.cert to confirm his dad
1881 Civil Parish: Birkdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 31 Chatham Rd Registration district: Ormskirk Sub registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 3745 Folio: 114 Page Number: 36
William Tinsley 45 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Head M Farm Labourer Ann Tinsley 44 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Wife M Farm Labourer Wife Mary Tinsley 17 Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England Daughter Domestic Elizabeth Tinsley 13 Sport, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar Francis Tinsley 11 Sport, Lancashire, England Daughter Scholar Henry Tinsley 8 Sport, Lancashire, England Son Scholar William Tinsley 6 Sport, Lancashire, England Son Scholar Harriett Tinsley 1 Bdale, Lancashire, England (not transcribed)
1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBNY-J1B
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1858 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TINSLEY William JOHNSON Ann St. Peter and St. Paul, Ormskirk Preston CE14/3/273
Using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ Marriage: 24 Aug 1858 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England William Tinsley - 22 Labourer Bachelor Ann Johnson - (X), 22 Spinster of Scarisbrick Groom's Father: Henry Tinsley, Labourer Bride's Father: James Johnson, Farmer Witness: Henry Tinsley; Jas. Dixon Married by Banns by: James T. Waring Register: Marriages 1854 - 1864, Page 137, Entry 273 Source: LDS Film 1849665
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: [I've appended the quarter of rego] Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1859q4 TINSLEY James Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/8/15 1862q2 TINSLEY Henry Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/9/2 1863q3 TINSLEY Mary Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/9/43 1865q4 TINSLEY Elizabeth Scarisbrick Preston JOHNSON SCA/10/7 1867[68q1] TINSLEY Elizabeth North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/22/391 1869q4 TINSLEY Frances North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/25/196 1871q4 TINSLEY Henry North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/28/5 1873q3 TINSLEY Jane North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/30/416 1874[75q1] TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/33/47 1878q4 TINSLEY Peter North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/40/186 1878q4 TINSLEY Jane North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/40/187 1880q3 TINSLEY Harriet Formby North Sefton JOHNSON F/13/313 1882q3 TINSLEY Bertha Annie Formby North Sefton JOHNSON F/15/110
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1862 Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference TINSLEY Henry 0 Scarisbrick Preston SCA/5/8
Deaths Jun 1862 (>99%) Tinsley Henry Ormskirk 8b 401
Deaths Dec 1866 (>99%) Tinsley Elizabeth 1 Ormskirk 8b 533
Deaths Dec 1874 (>99%) TINSLEY Jane 1 Ormskirk 8b 665
Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%) TINSLEY Jane 0 Ormskirk 8b 613
Deaths Sep 1879 (>99%) Tinsley Peter 0 Ormskirk 8b 436
==============
LancsBMD usually indexes by year of event, whereas FreeBMD indexes by quarter of registration. In England, one has 6w to rego a birth, so one often finds late December births rego'ed in the following quarter (and year). E.g.,
Births Mar 1875 (>99%) ... KELLETT William Alfred Ormskirk 8b 755 Thorne Laura Agnes Ormskirk 8b 755 TINSLEY William Ormskirk 8b 755 Wareing Hugh Ormskirk 8b 755
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1874 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference KELLETT William Alfred North Meols North Sefton BROMLEY NM/33/56 TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton JOHNSON NM/33/47
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference THORNE Laura Agnes North Meols North Sefton SIMPSON NM/33/50 WAREING Hugh North Meols North Sefton RIMMER NM/33/53
|
|
mgnv
|
Report
|
7 Jul 2015 13:28 |
Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference 1880 TINSLEY William North Meols North Sefton ROBINSON NM/43/228 1881 TINSLEY James Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/14/321 1883 TINSLEY Jenny North Meols North Sefton ROBINSON NM/48/486 1884 TINSLEY Henry Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/16/388 1885 TINSLEY Ann Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/17/344 1887 TINSLEY Nellie Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/19/275 1891 EVANS Peter Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/23/34
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1880 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TINSLEY James ROBINSON Ann Southport Holy Trinity North Sefton C14/3/12
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1890 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TINSLEY Ann EVANS George Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/1/398
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference TINSLEY Ann BOURKE Thomas Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/3/271
The latter two m.certs are available via a search at: http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=2576
EDIT Maybe: Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%) Tinsley James 26 Ormskirk 8b 600
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
5 Jul 2015 16:16 |
Jane Houghton
in the 1891 England Census Name: Jane Houghton Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1865 Relation: Wife of Head (Head) Gender: Female Where born: New Brighton, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Birkdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ormskirk ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3033 Folio: 20 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Jane Houghton 26 Annie Vickers 6 - daughter (Houghton) born 1885 Ormskirk <<<<<<<<<<< Thomas P Vickers 3 - son ( Houghton on image) Mary A Vickers 1 daughter - (Houghton on image)
Mistranscription - the Vickers family live next door.
???? Jane Evans in the 1881 England Census Name: Jane Evans Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relationship to Head: Servant (Employee) Gender: Female Where born: New Brighton, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Liscard County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address: Victoria Road "Rockland" Occupation: Domestic Servant Registration district: Birkenhead Sub registration district: Wallasey ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3589 Folio: 109 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Lightfoot 50 Elizabeth Milburn 63 Sarah Salvage 25 Jane Evans 17 James Hosack 67 Oliver Shawcross 21 Henry A. Rowe 57
The 1911 on the tree posted by Maddie doesn't seem to be on Ancestry.
|
|
ArgyllGran
|
Report
|
5 Jul 2015 15:59 |
In case tree info posted above by Maddie is correct, this would be her mother's marriage:
Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) EVANS Jane Ormskirk 8b 1168a HOUGHTON William Henry Ormskirk 8b 1168a
Possibilities for Annie's birth:
Births Dec 1880 (>99%) EVANS Ann Elizabeth Ormskirk 8b 767
Births Sep 1884 (>99%) Evans Ann Ormskirk 8b 800
Births Mar 1885 (>99%) Evans Annie Ormskirk 8b 870
|
|
Maddie
|
Report
|
5 Jul 2015 12:10 |
am posting this just in case the 1911 census you posted is not correst from a tree on ancestry
Annie Evans Birth 1885 Mar Southport, Lancashire, England 1 Source Residence 1891 Age: 6 Birkdale, Lancashire, England 1 Source Residence 1901 Age: 16 Birkdale, Lancashire, England 1 Source Marriage 1906 Jun Age: 21 Lancashire, United Kingdom Census 1911 Age: 26 6 Shaftesbury Avenue, Birkdale, Southport, Lancs. England Living as boarder with twin sons. 1 Source Death 1963 Sep Age: 78 Southport, Lancashire, England
Spouse & Children Albert Howard 1886 –
Private
William Albert Howard 1907 – 1908
Thomas Herbert Howard 1909 – 1994
John Albert Howard 1909 - 1911
parents Jane Evans 1865 – 1954
1901
Name: Annie Evan [Annie Evans] Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Stepdaughter (Daughter) Gender: Female Mother: Jane E Houghton Birth Place: Ormskirk, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3533 Folio: 149 Page Number: 25 Household schedule number: 137 Household Members: Name Age William H Houghton 35 Jane E Houghton 35 Thomas P Houghton 1 Margaret A Houghton 11 William A Houghton 9 Annie Evan 16
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 16:23 |
Evans wasn't her father...........census records show that
If your relative was Annie Evans at birth, she isn't the woman in the 1911 census
How carefully have you researched her? How did you work back to her?
Have you actually found her birth (or even looked for it)?
Also, please look at your other recent thread before you disappear...........
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 16:16 |
Thankyou for your help. I have the name Evans from parents details. I looked on freebmd for possible marriage. Back monday, as i am away this weekend.
|
|
safc
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 16:00 |
????
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1887 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference TINSLEY Nellie Formby North Sefton ROBINSON F/19/275
|
|
Jacqueline
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:52 |
Why do you think her birth name was Evans?
Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
EVANS George Ormskirk 8b 913 TINSLEY Ann Ormskirk 8b 913
|
|
LondonBelle
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:50 |
Marriage Ann Tinsley Spinster Place Birkdale Date 10/10/08 Address 19 Stamford Road Birkdale Groom Thomas Bourke Details obtained from Thomas' Military Record
|
|
safc
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:49 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 19, Stamford Road, Birkdale, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George Evans Head Married Male 42 1859 Fisherman New Brighton, Cheshire, England Transcription Ann Evans Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription Jenny Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Fish Hawker Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription Ann Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Not Employed Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription Nellie Tinsley Step Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Southport, Lancashire, England Transcription Peter Evans Son Single Male 10 1891 - Birkdale, Lancashire, England
|
|
Maddie
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:44 |
1901 Name: Ann Tinsley Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Granddaughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Southport, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Birkdale Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3534 Folio: 12 Page Number: 15 Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age George Evans 42 Ann Evans 39 Jenney Tinsley 18 Ann Tinsley 15 Nellie Tinsley 13 Peter Evans 10
|
|
safc
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:40 |
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BOURKE Thomas TINSLEY Ann Birkdale St Peter North Sefton C4/3/271
|
|
Maddie
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:40 |
????????? Name: Thomas Bourke Registration Year: 1908 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Ormskirk Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 1148 Records on Page: Name Thomas Bourke Cecil Evelyn Faulkner Alice Maude Hoyle Ann Tinsley ----------- Save Cancel
on 1911 brother in law is Tinsley
|
|
Maddie
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:36 |
readable version Record Image View View Map Add alternate information Report issue Name: Annie Bourke Age in 1911: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Southport, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Southport County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 19 Stamford Road Marital Status: Married Registration district: Ormskirk Registration District Number: 457 Sub-registration district: Formby ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 22858 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Bourke 30 Annie Bourke 25 William Tinsley 30 Peter Evans 19 Frank Finsley 7
|
|
safc
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:34 |
????
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 336 Hornby Street Liverpool, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place Edward Evans Head Married Male General Labourer 40 1871 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription Annie Evans Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Southport Transcription Mary Evans Daughter - Female - 11 1900 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription Edward Evans Son - Male - 7 1904 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription John Evans Son - Male - 5 1906 Lancashire Liverpool Transcription George Evans Son - Male - 2 1909 Lancashire Liverpool
|
|
Mark
|
Report
|
3 Jul 2015 15:24 |
I have posted the following census 1911 as it shows my relative Annie Evans 1886 Southport but I struggling to find a marriage for her.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/2352/rg14_22858_0491_03/21223110?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2f%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3d1911England%26indiv%3dtry%26h%3d21223110&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnRecord
Many thanks
|