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Hi I posted here a few years ago and am trying again now to see if there is anybody new out there that may be able to help me.

I am looking for a Death Date only for Alfred Robert Shaw. He was born in Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire. His Parents were John and Amy Shaw. I have all the information about him from his birth until 1920 when he disappears, I do not know where else to look so if someone knows of him or has him in their tree could you please let me have any information.

Thanks

Jane

Any idea if he married?

Where was the last sighting of him?

Is this his marriage?

Name: Alfred Robert Shaw
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Amesbury
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 376
Records on Page:
Name
Alfred Robert Shaw
Evelyn Blanche Swayne


Just for ref, if above is correct:-

Name: Alfred Robert Shaw
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Knapthorpe, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 38 Haldane Avenue, Birkenhead
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Student Of Theology
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Piece: 22048
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Robert Shaw 27
Evelyn Blanche Shaw 29
Dorithy Amy Shaw 2/12



States his British by parentage

~What happened in 1920??

For our benefit, is this his 1911 census?

Alfred Robert Shaw
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Knapthorpe, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 38 Haldane Avenue, Birkenhead
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Student Of Theology
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration district: Tranmere
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Piece: 22048
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Robert Shaw 27
Evelyn Blanche Shaw 29
Dorithy Amy Shaw 2/12

A tree on Ancestry suggest he married Evelyn Blanche Swayne.
This is the last birth post 1911

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Shaw Norman Swayne Salisbury 5a 301

Who registered it?
If they married, how is he described on his childrens MC?
Was Evelyn a widow when she died?

As he was a theological student in 1911, was he a Priest in Salisbury? (edit - wife died in Salisbury) Does the Cathedral/Diocese have any records?
Could he have gone abroad as a missionary and died there?

Other possible children born after 1911

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Shaw Mary E Swayne Birkenhead 8a 1008 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Shaw Alice E Swayne Prescot 8b 1341 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
SHAW Agnes G Swayne Prescot 8b 1416 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Shaw Norman Swayne Salisbury 5a 301


which would put him in Salisbury in 1921

Name: Evelyn Blanche Shaw
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1881
Date of Registration: Dec 1970
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Salisbury
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Volume: 7c
Page: 1967

..............so Evelyn stayed in Salisbury!

I was wondering if this may be relevant:-

First name(s) A R
Last name Shaw
School / university name Durham University
Narrative LTh, Unatt.; Temporary Chaplain to the Forces, 4th Class.
Notes -
Source University of Durham: Roll of Service 1914-1919
Roll -
Country England
Record set Britain School & University Memorial Rolls 1914-1918
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

....................but this one was a student at Durham University and not Salisbury??

Hi Catherine

Thankyou so much for taking the time to help me. But I do have all that information that you have found. He disappears from Farnworth, Widnes in 1920 and was never seen again and that is where I have hit the brick wall.

It's so frustrating I don't know where to look next.

Jane

You did say you had his recorded history to 1920, but we needed a background

Many men who served in WW1, or any conflict for that matter, suffered mental illness as a result. There are also numerous burial records around the country for 'a person unknown'.

Whilst there is no proof that is what happened to Alfred, it is something to consider.

Has family descendents say he disappeared, or is it that you can't find further records? Have you checked the historical ER for his last known address ?

As already said, it's easier if we know what you know :) Was his wife a widow when she died, and who registered her death? What evidence do you have that he was at Farnworth until 1920?

He was the Reverend at Farnworth?

Burial: 1 Aug 1916 St Mary, Great Sankey, Lancs.
Margaret Boden -
Age: 2 years
Abode: Sankey
Notes: [J. R. Jones Vicar was originally entered as minister but this is crossed out]
Buried by: Rev. A. R. Shaw. Farnworth
Register: Burials 1909 - 1926, Page 45, Entry 354
Source: LDS Film 2147231

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
Shaw Alfred Robert Northampton 3b 88

Northampton Mercury - Friday 06 September 1918

"The Rev. A. R. Shaw, son of Mr and Mrs J Shaw, of 51 Manor Road, Kingsthorpe, has received the offer of the living of St. Benedicts, Everton, Liverpool, a parish of 10,000 souls, income £300 and vicarage. Mr Shaw quite recently refused the living of St. Polycarp, Everton and is expecting to be called up as Chaplain. Mr Shaw occupied the pulpit at Kingsthorpe of the Sunday evenings, August 18th and 25th"

Did he take the offer?

Have you checked deaths in Scotland?

ARTHUR R SHAW
British nationals armed forces deaths 1796-2005
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
Great Britain
Year
1918
Rank
Private
Soldier Number
35499

A SHAW
Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index
Collections from
Great Britain
Country
England
County
Wiltshire
Year
1917
Year Of Death
1917
Reference
109662

No matching deaths in Scotland Gritty.

Yvonne, Jane seems to know that he was around until 1920.

Thanks Rootgatherer- this might paint a fuller picture:

Previous threads for ref:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1256165

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1323961?d=asc

Wondering about this

last name Shaw
first names Alfred (Reverend)
burial date 13 June 1984
authority The National Archives - Removal Of Graves And Tombstones
location
Removal Of Graves



Shaw, Alfred (Reverend)recordedon: 13 June 1984 recorded at: Burial Ground Of St James Church, Birch In Rusholme (Greater Manchester) date of death 20 February 1928
Shaw, Alfred (Reverend)buriedon: 13 June 1984 recorded at: Removal Of Graves d


EDIT

Not that one as he was too old

Alfred Shaw
Birth Date: abt 1853
Date of Registration: Mar 1928
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: South Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 140

It would have been better to keep everything on one thread