Would appreciate any help on this one, her father was Thomas Thubron a coal miner. I've hit a brick wall on her life before she married J.A.S. Hollywood in 1922.
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Hi
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This looks like her in 1911 ....... information from ancestry
1911 Census
Name: Mary Elizabeth Thubron Age in 1911: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Daughter (Child) Gender: Female Birth Place: Newton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 72 Spindle Hillock North Ashton Lancashire Registration district: Wigan Registration District Number: 458 Sub-registration district: Ashton in Makerfield ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 23099
Catherine Thubron 34 b.ca 1877, Dalton, Lancashire, Widow Mary Elizabeth Thubron 12 Francis William Thubron 10 b.ca 1901, Newton Francis Christmas Thubron 36 b.ca 1875, Hutton Henry, Durham, Brother-in-Law Mary Thubron 33 b.ca 1878, Coxhoe, Durham, Sister-in-Law (sister) John Thubron 10 b.ca 1901, Felling on Tyne, Nephew Robert Thubron 32 b.ca 1879, Hutton Henry, Brother-in-Law Flora Thubron 30 b.ca 1881, Bishop Auckland, Sister-in-Law (sister)
Information on the original image says that Catherine had been married 13 years, and had had 2 children, both still living
DISREGARD THIS ................... see below
I will leave this so that other helpers will not be misled
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or maybe not !!!!
The following is from lancs opc (Online Parish Clerk Records), a free site, but is that family
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Baptism: 5 Jun 1898 St Mark, Newtown, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Mary Elizabeth Thubron - [Child] of George James Thubron & Catherine Born: 18 Apr 1898 Abode: 53 Warrington Road Occupation: Policeman Baptised by: J. Hunt Newberry Register: Baptisms 1896 - 1900, Page 30, Entry 237 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Baptism: 10 Jun 1900 St Mark, Newtown, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Francis William Thubron - [Child] of George Innes Thubron & Catherine Born: 18 Apr 1900 Abode: 53 Warrington Road Occupation: Police Constable Baptised by: J. Hunt Newberry Register: Baptisms 1896 - 1900, Page 59, Entry 469 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
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for our assistance, this is the marriage registration ...........
Name: Mary Thubron Spouse Surname: Hollywood Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1922 Registration district: Sunderland Inferred County: Durham Volume Number: 10a Page Number: 1350 Find Spouse: John A S Hollywood
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Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
HOLLYWOOD John Alfred S S. Shields 10a 942
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Every reference that I can see to the Mary who marries J A S Hollywood refers to her only as Mary Thubron
How do you know that she had the middle name of Elizabeth?
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So she had acquired Elizabeth along the way ?? First name(s) MARY E Last name HOLLYWOOD Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1897 Age 65 Death quarter 2 Death year 1962 District WHARFEDALE County Yorkshire Volume 2D Page 666 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
First name(s) Mary Elizabeth Last name Hollywood Age 65 Birth year 1897 Death date 23 Apr 1962 Cremation year 1962 Cremation date 28 Apr 1962 Crematorium Cottingley Crematorium County West Riding of Yorkshire Country United Kingdom Register reference 20214 Record set Yorkshire, Leeds, cremations 1938-1969 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain
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Burial: 1 Apr 1911 Holy Trinity, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancs. George Innes Thubron - Age: 39 years Abode: 72 Spindle Hillock Buried by: W. Williams Rector Register: Burials 1910 - 1930, Page 11, Entry 88 Source: Original Registers at Leigh
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
18 June 1937 - Lancashire Evening Post - Preston, Lancashire, England
Lancashire Police Promotions P.C. Francis W. Thubron to uniform sergeant: from Chorley to Droylesden.
1901 (Find My Past) George J Thulson Head Married Male 29 1872 Police Constable Durham, England Catherine Thulson Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Dalton, Lancashire, England Mary E Thulson Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England Francis W Thulson Son - Male 0 1901 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England Street Warrington Road (53) Town New Town Parish Pemberton County Lancashire Municipal ward North Registration district Wigan Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3566 Folio 185 Page 46
Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Ashcroft Catherine Wigan 8c 80 Thubron George Innes Wigan 8c 80
Births Jun 1898 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- THUBRON Mary Elizabeth Wigan 8c 141
Births Jun 1900 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ THUBRON Francis William Wigan 8c 142
Chris :)
(or below one)
Births Dec 1896 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Thubron Mary Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 723
1901 (Find My Past) Thomas Thurburn Head Married Male 29 1872 Labourer In Ship Yd Brandon, Durham, England Eleanor J Thurburn Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Sunderland, Durham, England Mary E Thurburn Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Sunderland, Durham, England Thomas Thurburn Son Single Male 1 1900 - Sunderland, Durham, England Street Morgan Street Parish Southwick County Durham Registration district Sunderland Archive reference RG13 Piece number 4724 Folio 40 Page 16
1911 (Find My Past) Eleanor Thorburn Head Married Female Charwoman 36 1875 Monkwearmouth Sunderland Durham Mary Thorburn Daughter - Female - 14 1897 Monkwearmouth Sunderland Durham Thomas Thorburn Son - Male School 12 1899 Monkwearmouth Sunderland Durham Frances Thorburn Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Southwick Durham Joseph Middleton Boarder Widower Male Retired 61 1850 Deptford Sunderland Durham Address 9 Morgan St Southwick Sunderland Parish Southwick County Durham Census reference RG14 PN30237 RG78 PN1743 RD555 SD4 ED3 SN143 (says on image, Married 17yrs 6 children born 3 living 3 died)
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Reed Eleanor Sunderland 10a 876 Robson Henrietta Sunderland 10a 876 Thubrun Thomas Sunderland 10a 876 Tweddle William Sunderland 10a 876
01 July 1942 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland
Death THUBRUN - Died at County Hospital. Cleland, June 28. 1942, Thomas Thubrun, late of Morgan Street. Southwick, Sunderland.
25 March 1914 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland
Death THUBRON - At 9, Morgan Street, on tha 23rd. aged 10 years. Frances, dearly-beloved daughter of Eleanor Thubron. Interment at Southwick Cemetery on Thursday, cortege leaving 1.30. Service in St. Hilda’s Church. All friends kindly invited. Deeply mourned. R.I.P.
(all above perhaps, if relating)
Which Certificates do you have?...
edits
11 June 1948 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland
Death HOLLYWOOD - Royal Infirmary. June 8. aged 47 years. John Alfred, beloved husband of Mary Hollywood (nee Thubron) late of Southwick. Cortege leaves residence (7l Premier Rd) 9 a.m. Saturday for Requiem Mass in St. Joseph's Church 9.30. Interment Bishopwearmouth Cemetery after Mass. R.I.P.
Deaths Jun 1948 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- Hollywood John A 47 Sunderland 1a 908
THUBRON Eleanor J 72y 71 Premier Rd 25-07-1945 Wid Of Thomas Thubron
THUBRON Annie 11m 26-09-1902 9 Morgan St 28-09-1902 Dau Of Thomas Thubron Miner
THUBRON Frances 10y 23-03-1914 9 Morgan St 26-03-1914 Dau Of Geo Thubron Miner (mistake?)
http://www.durham-images.org/public/parrec/swb/t/th003.html
(Southwick Cemetery Burial Index)
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I will let Philip know how to find his replies :-)
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A HUGE THANK YOU to all of you, the mystery has finally been solved. The big problem with this one was the numerous different spellings for Thubron. I have had the Wigan Thubrons on the family tree, even though I knew that Mary Elizabeth Thubron's father was Thomas (not George) . The cigar goes to Chris.
Mary Elizabeth Thubron's parents were Thomas Thubron who married Eleanor Reed
Again a million thanks to all of you. Now back to the Family Tree for some major adjustments.
Cheers Phil (Downunder)
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