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brummie46
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15 Jun 2015 14:10 |
thanks gritty.
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 19:44 |
OK, I see a tree on Ancestry that has the marriage date and place I posted above (14th Sept 1789 Market Drayton))- but have the surname Price. However, the original image gives Martha's name as PERRY.
Take your time looking through the information posted.
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14 Jun 2015 19:39 |
Hi Gritty and Yvonne, thanks a million to wha tyou have found, trying to get my head around it. Regarding the name Price, cant recall to where it came from. Perhaps it was my research for I believe (sorry should have mentioned earlier) two John Rowleys from same more or less same area and same birth. thanks again for your time
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14 Jun 2015 19:28 |
?? But where is it referenced Yvonne?I must be missing it- Can you post it please?
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malyon
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14 Jun 2015 19:26 |
is'nt price the name of martha
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 19:22 |
Shropshire marriages Transcription First name(s) John Last name Rowley Marriage year 1789 Marriage date 14 Sep 1789 Marriage place Drayton in Hales Denomination Anglican Residence Drayton In Hales Spouse's first name(s) Martha Spouse's last name Perry Spouse's residence Drayton In Hales County Shropshire Register date range 1789-1812 Archive reference P97/A/3/2 Page 4 Register type Marriage Both of this Parish Witnesses were Henry Baker & John Grosvenor ----------------------------------------------------
Market Drayton is a small market town in north Shropshire, England, close to the Staffordshire border. It is on the River Tern, between Shrewsbury and Stoke-on-Trent, and was formerly known as "Drayton in Hales"
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 19:19 |
Still not seeing where the surname Price comes from.
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 19:07 |
This is possibly Martha's burial: First name(s) Matty Last name Rowley Age 86 Birth year 1772 Death year 1858 Burial year 1858 Burial date 10 Jan 1858 Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew Denomination Anglican County Staffordshire Archive reference D975/1/8 Page 59 Register Type Burial Record set Staffordshire burials ----------------------------------------------------------------
And John (snr) burial:
First name(s) John Last name Rowley Age 76 Birth year 1763 Death year 1839 Burial year 1839 Burial date 19 Jun 1839 Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew Denomination Anglican County Staffordshire Archive reference D975/1/8 Page 35 Register Type Burial
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 18:55 |
This is Martha- again with daughter Mary in 1851:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Salt Works, Weston upon Trent, Stafford, Staffordshire, England William Trigger Head Married Male 62 1789 Labourer Eccleshall, Staffordshire, Mary Trigger Wife Married Female 61 1790 Labourer's Wife Croxton, Staffordshire, Charles Trigger Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Agg Lab Weston, Staffordshire, Martha Rowley Mother Widow Female 82 1769 Pauper Widow Dorrington, Staffordshire, ------------------------------------------------
Mary's baptism: Name: Mary Rowley Gender: Female Christening Date: 04 Apr 1790 Christening Place: ECCLESHALL, STAFFORD, ENGLAND Father's Name: John Rowley Mother's Name: Martha Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01336-8 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1470944 , Reference ID: item 19 ------------------------------------------------------------
Mary's marriage: First name(s) Mary Last name Rowley Banns year 1811 Marriage year 1811 Marriage date 22 Jun 1811 Denomination Anglican Residence Weston on Trent Place Weston on Trent, St Andrew Spouse's first name(s) William Spouse's last name Trigger (Treger/ Tregar on image) Spouse's residence Weston on Trent County Staffordshire Archive reference D975/1/6 Register Type Marriage -------------------------------------------------
Mary's burial: First name(s) Mary Last name Trigger Age 62 Birth year 1790 Death year 1852 Burial year 1852 Burial date 27 Oct 1852 Burial place Weston on Trent, St Andrew Denomination Anglican County Staffordshire Archive reference D975/1/8 Page 54 Register Type Burial
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 18:50 |
Baptism for possible brother, Richard:
Name: Richard Rowley Gender: Male Christening Date: 30 Aug 1801 Christening Place: WESTON UPON TRENT,STAFFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: John Rowley Mother's Name: Martha Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03956-1 , System Origin: England-ODM , GS Film number: 421618 -------------------------------------------
Possible for Richard 1841 with Mum, Martha: 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Salt Works, Weston upon Trent, Stafford, Staffordshire, England Rd Rowley Male 40 1801 Staffordshire, England Matty Rowley Female 70 1771 Staffordshire, England Jas Rowley Male 14 1827 Staffordshire, England Sarah Rowley Female 10 1831 Staffordshire, England John Rowley Male 7 1834 Staffordshire, England ---------------------------------------------------------------
Possibly Matty is Martha?? Richard is listed as widower in 1851 so it possible that she was with him in 1841 looking after his children.
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brummie46
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14 Jun 2015 18:35 |
sorry forgot to mention , brummie jan did some research for me previously but couldn't find any other info. Hence the reason for 1841 lookup for John snr. just incase if would show anything. Or if could find any siblings of John 1807.
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malyon
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14 Jun 2015 18:29 |
John Rowley England Births and Christenings Name: John Rowley Gender: Male Christening Date: 01 Jul 1807 Christening Place: WESTON UPON TRENT,STAFFORD,ENGLAND Father's Name: John Rowley Mother's Name: Martha
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2015 18:24 |
For Ref- this family?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Water Lane, Newport, Shropshire, England John Rowley Male 30 1811 - Mary Rowley Female 30 1811 Shropshire, England Edwin Rowley Male 10 1831 Shropshire, England Mary Rowley Female 9 1832 Shropshire, England Elizabeth Rowley Female 4 1837 Shropshire, England Hannah Rowley Female 2 1839 Shropshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Beaumaris Lane, Newport, Shropshire, England John Rowley Head Married Male 46 1805 - Shirley Welsh, Staffordshire, Mary Rowley Wife Married Female 48 1803 - Newport, Shropshire, England Elizabeth Rowley Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1838 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England Theophilus Rowley Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England Thomas Rowley Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Newport, Shropshire, England John Turner Lodger Unmarried Male 7 1844 Scholar Longford, Shropshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------
I presume the place of birth is Shirleywich, Staffordshire.
Baptism: Name: John Rowley Gender: Male Baptism Date: 1 Jul 1807 Baptism Place: Weston Upon Trent,Stafford,England Father: John Rowley Mother: Martha FHL Film Number: 421618
Where did you get the surname of John's Mum?
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brummie46
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14 Jun 2015 18:14 |
i have done my tree going back to my gr gr gr grandfather John.Rowley 1807c who was born in Weston Upon Trent. who wed a mary fletcher in 1829 in Shropshire. Now i am looking to go another generation back i.e. his parents. John Rowley snr wed a Martha Price but date unknown. I was wondering if they could be on 1841 census to which might show a little more information, whether siblings still at home or if they would still be alive in 1841. Any help/search would be really appreciated thanking you for your time
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