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I am trying to find any information on Mary Vandeleur. Mary at some point come to Victoria Australia, I don't know who her parents were or where she come from. She married Robert Anderson in 1859 In Victoria and had several children. I would also love to find out more about Robert as well, when he got to australia and parents etc
They had these children in Victoria
Robert born 1859 in Amhurst
Elizabeth in 1865 in Talbot
Margaret in 1857 in Amhurst
Catherine in 1863 in Amhurst
Anne in 1856 in Daisy HIll

Thanks so much Kerryn

Surname sounds South African. or maybe Dutch

Are there marriage certs for that time ? Is so do they give any family info

Ancestry has the name in Dublin too And some born in Hampshire in the UK

Any idea of her age ???


Mary Vandeleur in the 1841 England Census

Name: Mary Vandeleur
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
Hundred: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 295
Book: 15
Folio: 12
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Vandeleur 35
Penelope Vandeleur 25
Mary Vandeleur 4
Francis Vandeleur 2 6 Mo
John Vandeleur 8

Class: HO107; Piece: 295; Book: 15; Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis; County: Dorset; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 12; GSU roll: 241344

This looks, like the same family


1851 census
Name: Robert Vandeleur
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Penelope Vandeleur
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
Ecclesiastical parish: Melcombe Regis
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 1857
Folio: 172
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Vandeleur 51 occ ? & Cav. Army
Penelope Vandeleur 40
Penelope A Vandeleur 19
John O Vandeleur 17
Eliza Stokes 29
Hannah Barge 29
Anne Brownsay 21
George Andrew 27
John Jeffries 31
Sophia Jeffries 40

Ah wrong family as she is still in the UK in 1861

Name: Mary E Vandalen
[Mary E Naudaleur]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: 1840
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Robt Naudaleur
Gender: Female
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England
Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Melcombe Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 106
Piece: 1349
Folio: 103
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Naudaleur 55 lieutenant colonel
Charles Irish 30servant s
Sarah Hellier 30 "
Hannah Nash 53
Eliza Crabbe 22
Penelope A Vandalen 26
Mary E Vandalen 21


Wrong transcriptions

Will leave for elimination purposes

thanks it is worth trying anything out I can't find her. Can anyone see the marriage in Victoria Aus?

I think she may have been born abt 1838 (that is what a couple of ancestry trees have and died 1906 in Victoria Aus
First child born 1856 3 years before marriage.

(below all come from google search, if relating)

Chris :)


http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MCNAMARA/2001-02/0982833192

Margaret McNamara born approx. 1800-1818 who married James
Vandeleur
and had a daughter named Mary Vandeleur about 1836 in Sixmilebridge
(Kilfinaghta parish), Co. Clare, Ireland. The daughter migrated to
Victoria, Australia and married Robert Anderson, a Scotsman.



http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IRL-CLARE/2000-10/0972080446


James Vandeleur b abt 1816 in Six Mile Bridge County Clare Ireland married
Bridget McNamara . After his wife died in Ireland he remarried Bridget KIng
& emigrated to Australia on the Ship named Nugget arriving in South
Australia 3.4.1858.


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_topics/thread/593173

Bridget McNamara (my ggggrandmother) married James Vandeleur on 6th February 1826. Witnessed by her father/brother John McNamara and Thomas Lynch...The ceremony took place in the ecclesiastical Parish of Cratloe in Sixmilebridge in County Clare...Ireland. Had 2 sons then sadly died.


http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/nugget1858.shtml

(Ship Nugget, Passengers)

thank you thank you thank you so much yep that seems like them
Kerryn

I am not sure if the second one is correct unless he has made a mistake with the first wifes christian name. It does sound like the same family though doesn't it. I tried to email the first person but it bounced straight back after all it was put on roots in 2000. I will also try and email the second man and see if I can get onto him but that was put up many years ago as well

Kerryn

This from a thread started several years ago re McNamara name study

G'day....Bridget McNamara (my ggggrandmother) married James Vandeleur on 6th February 1826. Witnessed by her father/brother John McNamara and Thomas Lynch...The ceremony took place in the ecclesiastical Parish of Cratloe in Sixmilebridge in County Clare...Ireland. Had 2 sons then sadly died.

And your post on that thread 14.6.2015 suggesting you know who her parents are and where she came from?

Hi, just found your messages, My 3rd great grandparents were Robert Anderson and Mary Vandeleur. Mary was born abt 1836 in Six Mile Bridge County Clare Ireland and is the daughter of James Vandeleur and Mary McNamara. Mary come to Victoria Australia and married scotsman Robert Anderson in 1859. They had 5 children. I would love to hear from anyone that has any information on James and Mary
Kerryn

South Australian Register, Monday 5 April 1858
SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. ARRIVED.

ARRIVED.

"Saturday, April 3— The ship Nugget, 1,013 tons, W. H. Bond, master, from Southampton Jan. 22. Pas- sengers-— Mr. W. Donaldson, Surgeon-superintendant, in the cabin; and the following Government emigrants in the steerage:..."

These Vandeleurs are listed:
James and Bridget Vandeleur
John and James Vandeleur
Bridget Vandeleur

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/49775607?searchTerm=%22bridget%20vandeleur%22&searchLimits=

For ref:
Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Robert Anderson
Spouse Name: Mary Vandeluer
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1859
Registration Number: 1194

Note the spelling on the marriage index. Same spelling on daughters baptism (not mentioned in your original post):

Name: Mary Anderson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1862
Christening Place: Back Creek, Victoria, Australia
Birth Date: 02 Feb 1862
Father's Name: Robert Anderson
Mother's Name: Mary Vandeluer
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02030-0 , System Origin: Australia-ODM , GS Film number: 993831
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Also this child, which I think is Mary and Robert's daughter:
Birth
Name: Maria Anderson
Father's name: Robert Anderson
Mother's name: Mary Naudlnan
Birth Place: Amherst, Victoria
Registration Year: 1861
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 4000
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Son Robert- death:
Name: Robt Anderson
Birth Year: abt 1860
Age: 87
Death Place: Malvern East, Victoria
Father's name: Robt Anderson
Mother's name: Mary Vandelieur
Registration Year: 1947
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 379

thanks for that Gritty and Greyghost
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I am not sure James and Bridget are her parents if they are they are not listing Mary as their child.

I didn't have any proof that these were her parents and don't have birth dates etc or much more information on her parents just the above names, they were taken off other trees to get a start with. I am aware Robert and Mary had 5 children as I found them in Aust births in ancestry as follows

Margaret McNamara born approx. 1800-1818 who married James
Vandeleur
and had a daughter named Mary Vandeleur about 1836 in Sixmilebridge
(Kilfinaghta parish), Co. Clare, Ireland. The daughter migrated to
Victoria, Australia and married Robert Anderson, a Scotsman.

I have no more information on her parents just a name which come off another tree and one of the posts above, I have written to these people that posted this information but the email bounced back so they have probably changed phone providers etc. It was just somewhere to start my search. so what I was after if at all possible is dob for mary and information such as dob for her parents, their parents details such as marriage details and any more children etc I don't mind taking information from other trees but like to confirm the details but unfortunately I have't been able to find much so I asked the question on this site.

Thank you so much for helping me

Kerryn

For Ref: Mary's death:
Name: Mary Anderson
Birth Year: abt 1838
Age: 68
Death Place: Creswick, Victoria
Father's name: Vandelieur Jas
Mother's name: Margt McNahara
Registration Year: 1906
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 5042

A photo of her grave here:
http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/Mary-Anderson/3778894#given_names=Mary&family_names=Anderson

Robert died 1874- An article on his death (a fatal accident on the railway) is in the Geelong Advertiser, Saturday 16 May 1874. There are also several other articles which can be searched here:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

Their daughter Elizabeth died 1869
Name: Elizabeth Anderson
Birth Year: abt 1866
Age: 3
Death Place: Victoria
Father's name: Robert
Mother's name: Mary Vandeleur
Registration Year: 1869
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 46

Edmond James Anderson in the same grave- most likely a grandson (son of Ann)
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Daughter Ann Marriage:
Name: Annie Anderson
Spouse Name: James Waddell
Marriage Place: Victoria
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Number: 909

Ann's death:
Name: Annie Waddell
Birth Year: abt 1856
Age: 65
Death Place: Yan Yean, Victoria
Father's name: Robt Anderson
Mother's name: Mary Avndaleu
Registration Year: 1921
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 16161

wow thank you so much for finding all of that and it has marys parents on her death so that is fantastic. Does that now rule out Bridgett and James Vandeleur? Now to find them in ireland which is no easy thing to do,

I have just this minute had a message from a lady that says she is related to Robert and Mary, she is going to have a look and see what she had as she hasn't looked at it for years. Will let you know if and when she gets back to me

Kerryn

Yes- I think it was a Grandson: Possibly the illegitimate son of Ann:

This is the death entry:
Name: Edmond Jas Anderson
Birth Year: abt 1876
Age: 8
Death Place: Unknown, Victoria
Mother's name: Annie Anderson
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 3095r

you are fantastic, thanks for all of this
Kerryn