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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 14:18 |
found both of them on 1891 ,1901 and 1911 census . 1911 census says they are married for 25 yrs .On Richard birth cert 15/3/1898 father is Samuel and mother is Mary Ann Booth formally Morgan but the informant is Mary Ann Morgan present at birth signed by her X Back Cheshire Street Mossley ,Richard born 3 mill st Mossley
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malyon
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6 Jun 2015 14:37 |
mary ann morgan married richard booth which makes them married 25yrs in 1911
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1886 (>99%) Booth Richard Bedwelty 11a 114 Scan available - click to view
MORGAN Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 114
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Jun 2015 14:45 |
Says they were all born Mossley lancs
Name: Samuel Booth Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Mary A Booth Birth Place: Mossley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Mossley Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Mossley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Ashton under Lyne Sub-registration district: Mossley ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3801 Folio: 81 Page Number: 20 Household schedule number: 108 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Booth 37 Mary A Booth 40 Richard Booth 3 John W Booth 6/12
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Jun 2015 14:50 |
Different place of birth in 1911
Name: Mary Ann Booth Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Sutton, Cambridge, England Civil Parish: Mossley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 3 Front Croft St Mossley Nr Manchester Marital Status: Married Registration district: Ashton under Lyne Registration District Number: 468 Sub-registration district: Mossley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 24334 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Booth 47 Mary Ann Booth 49 Richard Booth 13 John William Booth 10
7 children born 5 have died. 2 still living who are the ones on the 1901 census
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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 14:51 |
Shirley ,I took that as a error as Sutton Cambs is a small little village and is on 1911 census with ages correct and on 1891 census
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Jun 2015 14:55 |
Consistently born Mossley 1871 census
Name: Samuel Booth Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son (Child) Father's name: William Booth Mother's name: Elizabeth Booth Gender: Male Where born: Mossley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Mossley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub-registration district: Hartshead ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 236 Piece: 4089 Folio: 58 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age William Booth 35 Elizabeth Booth 34 Sarah Booth 16 Betty Booth 14 George Booth 13 Samuel Booth 7 1891 census no children listed
Name: Mary Ann Booth Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Samuel Booth Gender: Female Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Ashton under Lyne Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Mossley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne Sub registration district: Hartshead ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3295 Folio: 135 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Booth 27 Mary Ann Booth 30
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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 15:00 |
Yvonne Hi Samuel Booth is the father of Richard born15/3/1898..I am looking for a marrige date at abt 1886 Mossley area /Ashton under lyne for Samuel Booth to Mary Ann Morgan
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6 Jun 2015 15:03 |
Did you not believe Yvonne's post is correct marriage?
Marriages Sep 1886 Booth Richard Bedwelty 11a 114 MORGAN Mary Ann Bedwelty 11a 114
Maybe the informant was Mary's Mother ??
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Helen
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6 Jun 2015 15:16 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcrip?on Su?on Row, Su?on, Ely, Cambridgeshire, England Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Morgan Head Married Male 25 1836 Agricultural Labourer Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 29 1832 Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Selina Morgan Daughter Female 3 1858 Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Thomas Morgan Son Male 2 1859 Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Mary Morgan Daughter Female 1 1860 Sutton, Cambridges
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Helen
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6 Jun 2015 15:23 |
Name: William Morgan Age in 1911: 75 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Cambridge, England Civil Parish: Mossley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 6 Market St Mossley Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Retired General Labourer Registration district: Ashton under Lyne Registration District Number: 468 Sub-registration district: Mossley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 24334 Household Members: Name Age William Morgan 75 Selener Morgan 53 Albert Morgan 34
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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 15:23 |
Mike I am open to all offers.Mary Ann mother was also called Mary Ann,and lived in the Ashton area,but why go to Wales Bedwelty to get married.The more I look at her sons Richards birth the more It think it is possible as specially as the addresses are different for the both Mary Anns.I guess I will have to get hold of the wed cert to prove it 100%
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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 15:32 |
Yvonne I hope I didn't upset you by not thinking you are 100% right,As I said to Mike I am open to all offers and inputs and very grateful for the help,cause its doing my head in trying to find a simple marriage,buts that the fun in this hobby or maybe they lived in sin xx
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malyon
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6 Jun 2015 15:33 |
well perhaps they never married as we cant find the marriage or he changed he's name
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Jun 2015 15:43 |
Name: Mary A Booth Birth Date: abt 1861 Date of Registration: Sep 1923 Age at Death: 62 Registration district: Ashton Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 448
It does look though they never married
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Robert
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6 Jun 2015 15:44 |
Mike Samuel is the husband not the Richard,so sad to say the marriage in Bedwelty Wales 1886 is blown out of the water. Hey ho thats life ,back to the drawing board,.Thanks for your input Cheers
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Gritty
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6 Jun 2015 16:06 |
Daughter:
Name: Maud Booth Birth Date: 30 Aug 1890 Birth Place: Lancashire, England Baptism Date: 18 Nov 1891 Baptism Place: Monsall, Manchester, England Church: Primitive Methodist, Waggon Road, Micklehurst Father Name: Samuel Booth. Occ: Bobbin Carrier Mother Name: Mary Ann Booth
Address: Bank Street, Mossley --------------------------------------------------------------------
1901: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 3, Mill Street, Mossley, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Samuel Booth Head Married Male 37 1864 Cotton Bobbin Carrier Mossley, Lancs Mary A Booth Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Mossley, Lancashire, Richard Booth Son - Male 3 1898 - Mossley, Lancashire, England John W Booth Son - Male 0 1901 - Mossley, Lancashire, England
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Gritty
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6 Jun 2015 16:26 |
Just in case it's relevant- this Mary Morgan (wife of Herbert Morgan) is living Cheshire Street in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Cheshire Street, Mossley, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England Herbert Morgan Head Married Male 28 1873 Machine Feeder Cotton Mill Ashton, Lancashire, Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 30 1871 Cotton Cop Reeler Mossley, Cheshire, Stanley Bowker Step Son Single Male 9 1892 - Mossley, Cheshire, England Ellen Bowker Step Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Mossley, Cheshire, -----------------------------------------------------------------
The same Herbert in 1891? (Which fits with Mary being born in Sutton Cambs- fitting in with the info posted by Helen)
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Percy Street, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
William Morgan Head Married Male 55 1836 Labourer Cambridgeshire, Mary A Morgan Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Cambridgeshire, England Selina Morgan Daughter Single Female 34 1857 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire, England William Morgan Son Married Male 27 1864 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire, Charles Morgan Son Single Male 24 1867 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire, Herbert Morgan Son Single Male 20 1871 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire, Arthur Morgan Son Single Male 17 1874 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire, Albert Morgan Son Single Male 15 1876 Operative Cotton Ashton, Lancashire, Ethel Morgan Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Mossley, Lancashire, England Eliza Branford Lodger Single Female 21 1870 Operative Cotton Cambridgeshire, -------------------------------------------------------------
And Herbert (and sister Mary) 1881:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription ?, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Wm Morgan Head Married Male 45 1836 Stoker Sutton Mary Morgan Wife Married Female 41 1840 - Sutton Selina Morgan Daughter Single Female 23 1858 Reeler Sutton Mary Morgan Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Reeler Sutton George Morgan Son Single Male 19 1862 Labourer Sutton William Morgan Son Single Male 16 1865 Piecer (C M) Sutton Abraham Morgan Son Single Male 14 1867 Piecer (C M) Sutton Charles Morgan Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Sutton Alberta Morgan Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Sutton Auther Morgan Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Hurst, Lancashire, Herbert Morgan Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Hurst, Lancashire, Albert Morgan Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Hurst, Kent, England ----------------------------------------------------
So perhaps when Mary Ann Morgan registered her son's birth (Richard), she was staying with her brother? Or maybe her sister-in-law registered the birth- (although I think it more likely that Mary Ann registered it herself.)
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Chris Ho :)
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6 Jun 2015 21:29 |
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
(not seeing anything on above, some Births on there)
Chris :)
Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1923
BOOTH Mary Ann 62 Mossley Tameside MOS/20/5
(if above matches 1923 Death posted by Shirley above!)
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