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Gins,
I have had a good look at the 1861 census details you sent me and followed a few things up, it appears that Ann Gedge/Kolozdy was running a boarding or lodging house, and that the Mary Price and her son Henry were just lodging there, and were chiropodists by trade.
This Kolozdy family were a very involved lot and comp
licated to sort out, especially with a few half truths along the way!
Thanks to all for helping to sort some of it out!
Yewtree

PAUL / SAUL

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Paul the Apostle (Greek: ?a???? Paulos; c. 5 – c. 67), originally known as Saul of Tarsus

Just carying on for Violetta:-

Looks like mother remarried:-

Name: Violetta Barnes
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child)
Father: Wm. Barnes
Mother: Jane Barnes
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Alverthorpe cum Thornes
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: Thornes Lane
Registration district: Wakefield
Sub registration district: Alverthorpe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4582
Folio: 121
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm. Barnes 46 born: Burnley, Lancashire, (Drill Sergeant Yeomanry Cavalry)
Jane Barnes 37 born: Midlothian, Scotland
Violetta Barnes 17
Jane Louise Barnes 15 born: Midlothian, Scotland
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Deaths Jun 1890 (>99%)
Barnes Jane Louise 46 Doncaster 9c 487
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Name: Violetta G Barnes
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: William R Barnes
Gender: Female
Where born: St Georges, London, England
Civil Parish: Wheatley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Georges
Town: Wheatley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Doncaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3867
Folio: 113
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William R Barnes 55 - Army Pensioner (widower)
Violetta G Barnes 27

Band leader is John and he looks to be the father of the Violetta Georgina Kalozdy whose birth I posted earlier.

Have posted other information for her onto my earlier post.

Could be Paul...

(probably more bits on google relating)

Chris :)

(a John below)

http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1246303/hungarian-national-melodies-c-music-g-wilkinson/

Take a look on findmypast.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000174%2f18520310%2f031

There are lots of newspaper articles about the group, the above is just one of them.

The Hungarian Musical Company
The group were lead by Herr Kalozdy who played first violin (could very well be his father Francis) and Paul Kalozdy played second violin.

I saw that one too Chris. Are you also thinking that Saol may be Paul in Hungarian?

As country of origin is noted as Magyar I took a look on google:-

Magyar may refer to:
A nation and an ethnic group native to and primarily associated with Hungarian people

He seems to be traveling with a group of 10 others all from Magyar.
The first person on the list is definately a Musician from Austria.

Occupation looks to be Müvész. (Googled this and looks to mean) = Artist or Virtuoso.

England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 (Ancestry)

Name: Saol Kalogdÿ
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 22 Dec 1851
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Ship: Soho
Country of Origin/Native of: Magyar

(a possible, Profession as Mu?)

Chris :)

a long shot, "of the Hungarian band " so MAY have been born in Hungary

Name:
Pál Harkai Pusztáról Kálozi
Event Type:
Baptism
Event Date:
28 Jun 1827
Event Place:
Kiskunhalas, Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, Hungary
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
István Harkai Pusztáról Kálozi
Mother's Name:
Magadalena Tasi
Reference ID: 211 , Digital Folder Number: 004704121 , Image Number: 00116 , GS Film number: 622764

may not be relevant to your research, but as the name is so unusual, then this person may be part of Paul's family????

Name: Violetta Georgina Kalozdy
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: St George in the East
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 434

..........she can't be another daughter as she was born after his death, but may be the child of his brother????


Name: Violetta Georganna Kalozdy
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Doncaster
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 1011
Records on Page:
Name
William Cadman
xxxx Violetta Georganna Kalozdy
xxxx James Alexander Lambert
Emma Miriam Norwood


Name: Violetta Georgianne Lambert
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Georges, London, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 324 Main Rd Sheffield
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Shop Keeper
Registration district: Sheffield
Registration District Number: 510
Sub-registration district: Handsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 28027
Household Members:
Name Age
Violetta Georgianne Lambert 47
Alfred Kolody Lambert 15
Nellie Turner 14
Jane Williams 63

3 children brn - 2 died - 1 living

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EDIT (posting here just to keep things together)
1871
Jane Kalozdy Head Married Female 27 1844 Huswife Midlothian, Scotland Transcription
Violetta Kalozdy Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Jane Kalozdy Daughter - Female 4 1867 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Agnes Staig Servant Unmarried Female 19 1852 Domestic Servant Midlothian, Scotland

First name(s) Violetta
Last name Kalozdy
Relationship Daughter
Marital status -
Gender Female
Age 7
Birth year 1864
Occupation Scholar
Birth town London
Birth county Middlesex
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed LONDON
House number 11
House name St Johns Hill
Street -
Parish St Cuthbert Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Registration district Canongate
Archive reference RG10
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

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YORKSHIRE BANNS:-

First name(s) Violetta Georganna
Last name Kalozdy (otherwise Barnes)
Banns year 1893
Banns date 23 Apr 1893
Place Askern
Residence Askern St Peter
Spouse's first name(s) James Alexander
Spouse's last name Lambert
Spouse's residence Askern St Peter
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Doncaster Archives
Archive reference P6 1 D 1
Page 36
Record set Yorkshire Banns
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

........................................................................

First name(s) Violetta Georganna
Last name Kalozdy
Age 29
Birth year 1864
Marriage year 1893
Marriage date 08 May 1893
Marriage place Askern
Residence Askerne
xxxxxxx Father's first name(s) John xxxxxxx
xxxxxxx Father's last name Kalozdy xxxxxx
Spouse's first name(s) James Alexander
Spouse's last name Lambert
Spouse's age 37
Spouse's residence Askerne
Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's father's last name Lambert
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Doncaster Archives
Archive reference P6 1 B 1
Page 57
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

.......................above show her father was John Kalozdy.

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Parents in 1861:-
First name(s) John
Last name Kalozdy
Relationship Lodger
Marital status Married
Gender Male
Age 36
Birth year 1825
Occupation Band Master
Birth place other as transcribed HUNGARY PESTH
Street Tower Street
Parish Duddingston
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Registration district Portobello
Enumeration district 5
Family member last name KALOZDY
Family member first name(s) JOHN, JANE
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Little Melton
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber 43
DateOfBirth 03 Feb 1819
BaptismDate 22 Aug 1820
Forename Diana
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname GEDGE
MotherSurname CHEESEMAN
FatherOccupation Carpenter


Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Bawburgh
Church St Mary and St Walstan
RegisterNumber 175
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 30 Jun 1822
Forename Ann
Sex F
FatherForename William
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname GEDGE
MotherSurname
FatherOccupation carpenter


(if relating, from below link)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

27 March 1858 - Norfolk Chronicle - Norwich, Norfolk, England

Death
On the 14th inst., at Gloucester-street, Bloomsbury, London, of consumption, aged 30, Paul Kalozdy, of the Hungarian band.


England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) William
Last name Gedge
Marriage year 1805
Marriage date 1805
Marriage place Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Cheesman


Westminster Marriages Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) PAUL (Bachelor. Musician)
Last name KALOZDY
Marriage year 1853
Marriage day 17
Marriage month Oct
Parish St John the Evangelist, Smith Square
Spouse's first name(s) ANNE (Spinster. Milliner)
Spouse's last name GEDGE
Groom's age 25
Bride's age 25
County Middlesex
Record set Westminster Marriages
(wits. William Gedge, Diana Gedge. Fathers, Francis Kalozdy (Musician) William Gedge (Builder) Residence at Time for both, 37 Ponsonby Place)


1851 (Find My Past)
Edward Wookey Head Married Male 36 1815 Milliner Shaw Trade Sheringham, Somerset, England
Fanny Wookey Wife Married Female 34 1817 Professer Of Music Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Annie Gedge Assistant Unmarried Female 24 1827 Milliner Melton, Norfolk, England
Street Cranbourne Street
Parish Saint Anne Westminster
County Middlesex
Parliamentary borough Westminster
Registration district Strand
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1510
Folio 322
Page 10

First name(s) ISABELLA
Last name KALOZDY
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1855
Age 20
Death quarter 3
Death year 1875
District PORTSEA ISLAND
County Hampshire
Volume 2B
Page 274

Wonder if this is Diana
1901 census

9, Salcott Road, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England

Charles Gedge Head Married Male 52 1849 Joiner Pimlico, Middlesex, England Transcription
Amelia Gedge Wife Married Female 50 1851 - City of London, Middlesex, England Transcription
Louie Gedge Daughter Single Female 26 1875 - Purfleet, Essex, England Transcription
Harold Gedge Son Single Male 34 1867 Clerk (Gas Works) Purfleet, Essex, England Transcription
Lionel Gedge Son Single Male 22 1879 Coachman Purfleet, Essex, England Transcription
Eveline Gedge Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Clerk (Laundry) Brixton, Surrey, England Transcription
Isabel Gedge Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Pauline Gedge Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Diana Gedge Aunt Single Female 82 seamstress. Norfolk

1891 census

Lambs Conduit Street, St Andrew Holborn Above the Bars and St George The, Holborn, London, England

Elizabeth Flower Head Widow Female 69 1822 Ladies Outfitter Brighton, Sussex, England

Diana Gedge Sister Single Female 67 1824 Ladies Outfitter Norfolk, England

This looks like Annie in 1861



Name:Annie Haloydy <<Widow

Age:34

Estimated Birth Year:1827

Relation:Assistant

Gender:Female

Where born:Melton, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish:St George Hanover Square

Ecclesiastical parish:St George Hanover Square

County/Island:Middlesex

Registration district:St George Hanover Square

Sub-registration district:Hanover Square

ED, institution, or vessel:18

Household schedule number:9

Piece:42

Folio:54

Page Number:2

Household Members:


Name

Age


Henry W Eltsdell 49
Florentine Eltsdell 47
Henry Eltsdell 22
Emma Champness 39
Annie Haloydy 34
John C C Daunt 28
Ann Ward 20

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Name: Ann Kalozdy
Probate Date: 12 Feb 1897
Death Date: 18 Jan 1897
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

Of 21 Minton gardens Kensington ,widow ,admin 12 February to Diania Gedge. Spinster £102.1s

Perhaps he isn't on any census because he came to the UK after the 1851 census and then died before the 1861

Daughter with grandparent

Name:
Isabel Ralezdy
[Isabel Kalodsy]

Age:6

Estimated Birth Year:1855

Relation:Granddaughter

Gender:Female

Where born:London, England

Civil Parish:Norwich Heigham

County/Island:Norfolk
Registration district:Norwich

Sub-registration district:West Wymer

ED, institution, or vessel:18

Household schedule number:104

Piece:1219

Folio:161

Page Number:16

Household Members:


Mary Gedge 78
Silvia Gedge 35
Isabel Ralezdy 6

This looks like his wife and child. Parents name 'Price', did her mother re-marry?



Name:Annie Kalozdy <<widow

Age:45

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1826

Relation:Head

Mother's name:
Mary Price

Where born:Norfolk, England

Civil Parish:St George Hanover Square

Ecclesiastical parish:Hanover Square

Town:London

County/Island:London

Registration district:St George Hanover Square

Sub-registration district:Hanover Square

ED, institution, or vessel:4

Household schedule number:179

Piece:93

Folio:14

Page Number:21

Household Members:


Annie Kalozdy 45
Isabella Kalozdy 15
Henry Price 31
Mary Price 52
Bridget Sullivan 28
Christian Gedge 49
Elizabeth Dean 32

I am looking for Paul Kalozdy 1819 - 1858, his wife Ann nee Gedge 1824 -1897 and daughter Isabella born 1856. In Westminster or London area.
I cannot find them on any census. Paul was a musician. Marriage was registered Dec quarter 1853 at St John the Evangelist Church,Westminster.
Any info most welcome!
Yewtree.