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Hi,
I'm looking for ancestors of Annie and James Harrington of Fulham
Annie born 1869
James born 1865
Any help would be much appreciated

have you tried looking for them on the census

here they are on the 1871 census
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wheatsheaf Alley, Fulham, Kensington, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Harrington Head - Male 28 1843 - Wales occ brcklayer
Margaret Harrington Wife - Female 27 1844 - Ireland Transcription
James Harrington Son - Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary Ann Harrington Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Transcription
Ann Harrington Daughter - Female 1 1870 - Middlesex, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Wyatt Terrace, Fulham, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Margaret Harrington Head Widow Female 36 1845 Ag Lab Ireland
Mary Scantling Boarder Widow Female 64 1817 Ag Lab Ireland

James Harrington Son Single Male 16 1865 Ag Lab Fulham, Middlesex, England

Mary Harrington Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Servant Fulham, Middlesex, England

John Harrington Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Fulham, Middlesex, England

James married Ann OBryan in Fulham in 1887. She was the daughter of Elizabeth OBryan born Ireland c1835.

Deaths Dec 1878
HARRINGTON John 48 Fulham 1a 161

Now !! When you say Annie is it james wife you are looking for or his sister ??

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bayonne Road, Fulham, London, England

James Harrington Head Married Male 25 1866 Carman Fulham, Middlesex, England

Annie Harrington Wife Married Female 22 1869 Laundress Kensington, Middlesex, England

James Harrington Son - Male 3 1888 - Fulham, Middlesex, England

Mary Harrington Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Fulham, Middlesex, England

John Harrington Son - Male 0 1891 - Fulham, Middlesex, England

This could be mum

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
52, Romney Street, St Margaret and St John, St George Hanover Square, London, England


Margaret Harrington Head Widow Female 56 1845 Charwoman Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

Margaret Nottage Grand Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Housemaid Westminster, Middlesex, England

The 1891 census (Margaret has been mistranscribed) has Margaret born Trelee, Ireland.

I am assuming that Trelee should actually be Tralee.

(Tralee is the county town of County Kerry in the south-west of Ireland.)

Margerete Harrington in the 1891 England Census
Name:Margerete Harrington
Age:45
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1846
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Treelee, Ireland
Civil Parish:Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Andrew and St Albans
County/Island:London
Registration district:Fulham
Country:England

Household Members:


Margerete Harrington 45 Widow (Launderess/Washer)
John Harrington 19 Son ( Labourer)
Mary Harrington 10 >>>>Widow.....age 70 on the image. (Born Ireland)
Michael Madden 6 (Grandson) Born Fulham

Unfortunately it doesn't state the relationship of Mary to Margaret.

Michael is the son of Mary Ann Harrington.

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
HARRINGTON Mary Ann Fulham 1a 530
Madden Henry Fulham 1a 530

Thank you to everybody that has posted information.
I only joined Genes today, and I'm very excited to get going.

I probably should have been a bit more specific with my original post.
I know the basics of the Harrington family (from the census's), but would really love to get answers to the parts I'm stuck on.

I'm hoping to find somebody who's researching the family, that has stories or information that they would be kind enough to share. Or for somebody who's a lot more savvy at researching than I am - which wouldn't be hard, as I'm brand new at it.

I want to order the birth and death certificates for James b1865 and Annie b1869, but I'm not sure how to be sure I have the correct ones? It has her as Ann O'Bryan on their marriage register, but she's Annie on everything else. I have ordered their marriage certificate.

I'd love to know the details of James's parents John and Margaret. I'd like to get their birth and death certificates, but I'm stumped on them. All I know is what the census says - John b1843 Wales and Margaret b1844 Ireland (don't know her maiden name).

I'd also like the birth and death certificates for Annie's parents. Somebody has written that her mother was Elizabeth O'Bryan b 1835 Ireland?

I'm feeling a bit stumped and useless at the moment. I seem to be ok finding basic, obvious stuff, but anything tougher than that is beyond me. I am learning bit by bit, but it's very frustrating.

I would very much appreciate anybody that would like to take pity on me and help me with those dates and reference numbers, so I can order the certificates. I know everybody is busy doing their own research, but I really would be ever so grateful for any help.

I'm wondering if the widowed Mary Harrington could be John Harrington's mother (age 70 on the 1891 census).

Alex

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1351960

Please, Alexandra, take note that one post per topic is the site rule. helpers look at all boards, and it's much easier to keep track if all info is in one place

Read the posts at the top of this thread which offer tips and advice for those who, like you, are just starting out

This may help you

https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Ireland_Civil_Registration

One important point with regard to England and Wales is that there were no penalties before 1875 for not registering births, which meant that a lot of births for the time went unrecorded.

However, the majority of children were baptized..............so look for baptisms

Hi Alexandra

I don't know where Astra got the information from about Ann/Annie OBryan's Mother being Elizabeth.

Perhaps she will pop back on here and enlighten us.

If her Mother was Elizabeth born Ireland..........I am wondering about this census...

???

Ann Obryan in the 1871 England Census
Name:Ann Obryan
Age:3
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868
Relation:Daughter (Child)
Father's name:Edward Wheeler
Mother's name:Elizabeth Obryan
Gender:Female
Where born:Kensington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish:Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish:St Phillip
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Kensington
Sub-registration district:Kensington Town

Household Members:

Edward Wheeler 66 Widower (Chair Carver) Dockhead Surrey
Elizabeth Obryan 36 (Wife) Married.........Washerwoman...Cork Ireland
Mary Obryan 14
Rose Obryan 12
Ann Obryan 3
Mary Haggap 25 (Lodger)

That's the one I found PH. In 1881 she is in the Workhouse with a sister Catherine.
Enlightenment comes late because I've been out for a couple of hours with the dogs!

Sorry it's a school they are in. if it is the same one. her sister Catherine is 8. She named one of her daughters Katie (as per census). Registered as Catherine in 1893

Births Sep 1893 (>99%)

Harrington Catherine Fulham 1a 295



Name:
Ann O'bryan
Age:
14
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1867
Relationship to Head:
Inmate
Gender:
Female
Civil Parish:
Ashford
County/Island:
Middlesex
Country:
England
Street address:
"West London District School" Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel:
West London District School

Catherine is living with Elizabeth in Fulham in the 1891 census.

Not sure if we are on the right track.........but here is Elizabeth in 1891.....

Elizabeth Obryan in the 1891 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Obryan
Age:56
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1835
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born:Cork, Ireland
Civil Parish:Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Clement
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Fulham

Household Members:

Elizabeth Obryan 56 (Widow) Charwoman
Katherine Obryan 18 (Domestic Servant) Fulham

??

Elizabeth Obryan in the 1901 England Census
Name:Elizabeth Obryan
Age:65
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Cork, Ireland
Civil Parish:Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Peter
County/Island:London
Country:England
Registration district:Fulham
Sub-registration district:North West Fulham

Household Members:

Elizabeth Obryan 65 Widow (Monthly Nurse/Sick) Own Account
Alfred Steel 1
John Steel 1

I'm confused (it doesn't take much lol).
I haven't actually looked at those census's yet.
Will have a proper look tomorrow - it's late where I live.

If on the 1871 census it says that Edward Wheeler is the father.
Does that mean he's Ann's father or her mother Elizabeth's father?
I thought it should say he was the head of the house?

He's a widow and 30 years older than Elizabeth.

If all the children have the surname of O'Bryan, and it says Elizabeth is married, then I have to find (?) O'Bryan that she married?

Ignore Edward Wheeler - Ancestry have got it wrong !

He is living in the same building as Elizabeth and family but is in a separate 'household'

Dea x

I added the 1901 to my post over two hours ago.

I lost internet connection so have only just been able to post it.

I'm hoping that this is the birth registration of Rose O'Bryan who is also the daughter of Elizabeth. I can't locate any baptisms for the children but this should give you the name of her mother and her maiden name and also the name of her father.
You should only order certificates through the GRO online using a credit or debit card. I think the cost is £9.25 wherever you are in the world. The volume and page numbers are the ones you need when ordering. Please be aware that other companies will charge you up to three times as much for certificates.


Births Sep 1858 (>99%)

O'Bryan Rose Ann Kensington Volume 1a Page 75

Ann's marriage certificate to James Harrington will also give you the name and occupation of her father.


Name:
James Harrington

Registration Year:
1887

Registration Quarter:
Jul-Aug-Sep

Registration district:
Fulham

Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District

Inferred County:
London

Volume:
1a

Page:
577

I would only order the marriage certificate first as that is the one we think is correct and we can then hopefully trace her father
You have to register on the GRO site first but it is free and very easy to use.