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Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 6,752 Send Message	Kucinta	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:48
	Wondered about this grouip, but no husband Cornelius, which I was hoping for. Mary is born Ireland, and Charlotte not born in county. James is a book binder: 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Augustus Street, St Pancras, Middlesex, England James Young Male 60 1781 Ireland Jane Young Female 50 1791 Middlesex, England Samuel Middleton Male 30 1811 Maria Middleton Female 30 1811 Elizabeth Middleton Female 12 1829 Caroline Middleton Female 10 1831 Louisa Middleton Female 8 1833 Maria Middleton Female 5 1836 Ann Middleton Female 2 1839 Thomas Cooper Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England James Marchment Male 25 1816 Caroline Marchment Female 25 1816 James Birdseye Male 35 1806 Middlesex, England<<<<<<<<<<< Charlotte Birdseye Female 40 1801<<<<<<<<< Mary Birdseye Female 14 1827 Ireland<<<<<<<<<
	Researching: Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 17,958 Send Message	Chris Ho :)	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:22
	Marriage Cornelius Birdseye of Stepney Middlesex Charlotte Maria Wright of Little Wymondley Parish Little Wymondley 26 Sep 1833 (no idea on above, from below) http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/leisculture/heritage1/hals/indexes/ (Names Online) Chris :) edits Middlesex Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past) Groom's first name(s) James Groom's last name Birdseye Marriage year 1832 Marriage date ? Jul 1832 Marriage place Haggerstone Bride's first name(s) Charlotte Bride's last name Philbrick County Middlesex By licence or banns Source 1813-37 Slip Index (also on Ancestry, Widower, Widow)
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 6,752 Send Message	Kucinta	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:20
	Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't know how I missed this , but I did. Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%) BIRDSEYE Mary Ann Reading 2c 533 <<<<<<<< Hyde John Reading 2c 533 <<<<<<<<<<<<< ROBINSON John Reading 2c 533 Whiteway Eliza Reading 2c 533
	Researching: Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 6,752 Send Message	Kucinta	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:18
	Son Cornelius definitely confirms the Birdseye connection, as does John's ma in law Charlotte Birdseye in 1861 census, am I just missing the marriage???? First name(s) CORNELIUS BIXDSEYE Last name HYDE Birth year 1857 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's last name - District READING County Berkshire Country England Volume 2C Page 325
	Researching: Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,669 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:12
	Re hunt for Martha's children: A tree (with no proofs) on FamilySearch says that Ann (see 1851 posted by both Alviegal and Jacqueline on 13th April) was Ann Martha, and that she died on 16 Feb 1921 at Craven Hospital, Richmond, Contra Costa, California, USA. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:M7Y9-G5M I don't see that death on Ancestry. This will be the birth they mean: Births Jun 1844 (>99%) Hyde Ann Martha Shoreditch 2 577 A possibility for her emigration????? Ann Hyde in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Ann Hyde Arrival Date: 30 Aug 1864 Birth Date: abt 1844 Age: 20 Gender: Female Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Place of Origin: England Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Edinburgh Spinster, apparently travelling alone. But no proof it's her - could be anyone. The tree says she married Martin Simeon Marshall on 26 Nov 1872 at Canal Street Presbyterian Church (no town name given) That tree gives 1852 as Martha's YOD, in London, as mentioned in the OP, but no proof given. Unsubstantiated info given re Martha's other children: Henry / Harry 1831 London - 2 Feb 1916 (no place given). Lavinia (as I posted earlier). Thomas Robert 10/01/1840 London - June 1893 (no place) . Joseph Edward 08/03/1842 Haggerstone East - 5/07/1878 at sea, Atlantic. Buried 05/07/1878 (either death or burial date must be wrong) in City Cemetery, Logan, Utah. Married to Annie Lorraine Farrell on 07/01/1863, Logan. Henry James c1831 London. John 25/02/1833 London - 18/08/1875 (no place). William Richard 1835 London - March 1922 (no place) Thomas Robert c1837, London Lillie c1843, London Annie - April 1845, London
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: April 2005 Posts: 6,752 Send Message	Kucinta	Report	17 Apr 2015 12:02
	You said John Hyde married Mary Ann Birdseye in 1856, was this back in Ireland? If so, is there any chance that Martha died in Ireland? The only England & wales marriages of a Mary Ann Birdseye in 1856, don't seem to involve a John Hyde. Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%) BIRDSEYE Mary Ann Hemel Hempstead 3a 364 EAST Walter Isaac Hemel Hempstead 3a 364 WILKINS George Hemel Hempstead 3a 364 WILSON Jane Hemel Hempstead 3a 364 Marriages Sep 1856 BIRDSEYE Mary Ann London City 1c 193 MEDLYCOTT Jane London City 1c 193 TAYLOR George David London City 1c 193 TAYLOR Thomas London City 1c 193 Name: Mary Ann Birdseye<<<<<<<< Spouse: Thomas Taylor<<<<<<<<< Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Aug 1856 Parish: Christ Church Borough: City of London Father Name: Thomas Birdseye Spouse Father: Jacob Taylor Register Type: Parish Register
	Researching: Eayres (Northants/London) Walker (Surrey) Loveday (Northants) Moore (Tipperary)
Member Since: March 2011 Posts: 2 Send Message	helenk	Report	17 Apr 2015 11:06
	Thanks for all your replies. Tied up with a big research project at the moment. Will check replies and get back to you asap.
	Researching: Hyde - London, Manchester, Derby Marmoy - London Norman - Chepstow, Ammanford
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 19,599 Send Message	Cynthia	Report	14 Apr 2015 13:43
	I will let Helen know how to find her replies :-)
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Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	13 Apr 2015 22:32
	I have deleted the incorrect census info, to avoid clouding the issue
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Apr 2015 17:01
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Rotherfield Street, Islington, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Lodger Married Male 81 1810 Own Means Dublin, Ireland Transcription Wm Richd Hyde Lodger Single Male 56 1835 Solicitors Clerk Middlesex, England John is with his eldest son. 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Townshend Road, Tottenham, Edmonton, Middlesex, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place >>Thomas Hyde Head Married Male 41 1840 Salesman (Foreign) Middlesex, England Transcription Helen Hyde Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription Marian Hyde Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription John Hyde Son Single Male 0 1881 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Transcription >>William Hyde Brother Single Male 46 1835 Solicitors Clerk Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Hill Servant Single Female 20 1861 Domestic Ser Kentish Town, Middlesex, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	Name: John Hyde Birth Date: 25 Feb 1833 Birth Place: St Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Event Type: Baptism Father: John Hyde Mother: Martha Marmoy Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1833 Baptism Place: Bishopsgate, London, England Denomination: Irvingite Piece Title: Piece 4375: Bishopsgate, Parliament Court, Old Artillery Ground (Irvingite), 1829-1840 Cancel Name: William Richard Hyde Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Mar 1835 Baptism Date: 22 Nov 1835 Baptism Place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England Father: John Hyde Mother: Martha FHL Film Number: 396238, 396239, 396240
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:35
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	This is John in 1881. 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 25, Lidfield Road, Stoke Newington, Hackney, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Head Married Male 71 1810 Law Bill Clerk Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Transcription Mary A Hyde Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Transcription Charlotte B Hyde Daughter Single Female 18 1863 - City of London, Middlesex, England Transcription George B Hyde Son Single Male 16 1865 Law General Clerk City of London, Middlesex, England Transcription Charlotte Birdseye Visitor Widow Female 79 1802 - Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pratt Street, Pancras, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Head - Male 59 1812 - Ireland soliciter's bill clerk Mary Ann Hyde Wife - Female 39 1832 - Ireland Transcription Cornelius Birdseye Hyde Son - Male 13 1858 - Berkshire, England Transcription Charlotte Jane Birdseye Hyde Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Middlesex, England Transcription George Birdseye Hyde Son - Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England Transcription Charlotte Birdseye - - Female 69 1802 - Cambridgeshire, England So this is the correct 1861. 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 55, Pratt Street, Pancras, London, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Head Married Male 49 1812 Solicitors General Cl Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Transcription Mary Hyde Wife Married Female 29 1832 - Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Transcription Cornelius Hyde Son - Male 3 1858 - Reading, Berkshire, England Transcription Charlotte Birdsey Mother Widow Female 59 1802 - Cambridgeshire, England Where ARE Martha's children??
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,669 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:28
	This may be "Louisa" from 1851 census. The name's hard to read on the census image - Ancestry has it transcribed as Leoncia. Births Mar 1851 (>99%) Hyde Lavinia St Lukes 2 293 Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%) Hyde Lavinia St Luke 2 201
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,669 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:09
	Welcome to the boards, Helenk. This is the only Martha Hyde death in Middlesex within that time-frame. Bethnal Green included Shoreditch : Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%) Hyde Martha Ann Bethnal Gn 2 17 No proof it's her either - this one had a middle name.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:08
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	Name: Martha Hyde Registration Year: 1852 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Newington Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 137 Cancel No proof it's her though.
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:06
	Is THIS her? 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Windsor Place, Saint Luke, Middlesex, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Head Married Male 41 1810 Solicitors Clerk Dublin, Ireland Transcription Martha Hyde Wife Married Female 41 1810 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription William Hyde Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Stock Bukers Clerk London, Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Hyde Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Haggerston, Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Hyde Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Haggerston, Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa Hyde Daughter - Female 0 1851 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Transcription Joseph Hyde Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Transcription Registration District = ST LUKE
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Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:04
	For some sort of age and location info First name(s) Martha Last name Marmoy Name note - Marriage year 1831 Marriage date 13 Feb 1831 Marriage place Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Hyde - Place Shoreditch County London Country England
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	alviegal	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:03
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,362 Send Message	This her for ref? 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cumberland Street, St Leonard Shoreditch, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place John Hyde Male 27 1814 Ireland Transcription Martha Hyde Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England Transcription James Hyde Male 9 1832 Middlesex, England Transcription John Hyde Male 8 1833 Middlesex, England Transcription William Hyde Male 6 1835 Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Hyde Male 1 1840 Middlesex, England Transcription John Bradshaw Male 27 1814 - Transcription William Juda Male 25 1816 Middlesex, England Transcription Emma Juda Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England Transcription William Juda Male 1 1840 Middlesex, England 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Windsor Place, Saint Luke, Middlesex, England Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hyde Head Married Male 41 1810 Solicitors Clerk Dublin, Ireland Transcription Martha Hyde Wife Married Female 41 1810 - London, Middlesex, England Transcription William Hyde Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Stock Bukers Clerk London, Middlesex, England Transcription Thomas Hyde Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 Scholar Haggerston, Middlesex, England Transcription Ann Hyde Daughter Unmarried Female 7 1844 Scholar Haggerston, Middlesex, England Transcription Louisa Hyde Daughter - Female 0 1851 - St Luke's, Middlesex, England Transcription Joseph Hyde Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Member Since: August 2014 Posts: 6,166 Send Message	Jacqueline	Report	13 Apr 2015 16:02
	WHERE was she in 1851? Have you found any deaths for her name in the relevant registration district between 1851 and 1856?
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Member Since: March 2011 Posts: 2 Send Message	helenk	Report	13 Apr 2015 15:58
	Looking for record of Martha's death. She is on the 1851 census, but can't find her after that. John remarried in 1856 to Mary Ann Birdseye. Several suggestions that Martha died in 1852, but I have not found any proof of this
	Researching: Hyde - London, Manchester, Derby Marmoy - London Norman - Chepstow, Ammanford

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