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trying to find richard saunders birth place and marriage married elizabeth i cannot get any further with this one of their daughters was maria mary saunders 1829 born St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey not sure how many children they had if you could help please thank you

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Elim Street, Bermondsey, St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, Surrey, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Gardner Male 20 1821 Surrey, England
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Joseph Pust Male 24 1817 Surrey, England
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George Thurman Male 30 1811 Surrey, England
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John Lunn Male 50 1791 Not Known
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Robert Lunn Male 13 1828 Not Known
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Richard Saunders Male 50 1791 Not Known
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Elizabeth Saunders Female 48 1793 Not Known
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Maria Saunders Female 12 1829 Surrey, England
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Hannah Saunders Female 10 1831 Surrey, England
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Thomas Saunders Male 7 1834 Surrey, England

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Elim Street, Bermondsey, Surrey, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Richard Saunders Head Married Male 60 1791 Tanner Southampton, Hampshire, England
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E Saunders Wife Married Female 58 1793 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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T Saunders Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Labourer Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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H Saunders Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 Shirt Maker Bermondsey, Surrey, England
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John Farrell Lodger Married Male 36 1815 Labourer Southwark, Surrey, England
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H Farrell Lodger Wife Married Female 33 1818 - St George in the East, Middlesex, England
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Mary Marshall Lodger Widow Female 45 1806 - -
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G Marshall Lodger Unmarried Male 17 1834 Smith -
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E Marshall Lodger Unmarried Female 14 1837 - -
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George French Infant - Male 0 1851 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England

thank you i wonder why richard never knew his birth place on the 1841 census
looking on family search for birth but nothing comes up


Richard Saunders
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Richard Saunders
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1868
Registration District: Bermondsey
County: London
Event Place: Bermondsey, London, England
Age (available after 1866): 76
Birth Year (Estimated): 1792

1841 Census above already posted ( I recocgnised Elim street from previous search)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349948

1823 two children baptised to Richard and Elizabeth Saunders
Elim St. Richard shown as a tanner

Isabella Mary and Eliza Caroline are on same image

Name: Isabella Mary Saunders
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Jan 1823
Father's name: Richard Saunders
Mother's name: Elizth Saunders
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers



And another one
Name: Mary Ann Saunders
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Jul 1825
Father's name: Richard Saunders
Mother's name: Elizabeth Saunders
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933 Transcription
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First name(s) MARIA MARY
Last name SAUNDERS
Birth year 1829
Birth date -
Baptism year 1829
Baptism date 01 Apr 1829
Father's first name(s) Richd
Mother's first name(s) Elizth
Father's occupation Watchman
Address Elim St
Parish St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey
Notes -
Church address Bermondsey Street
County London
Country England
Transcriber note -
Archive reference X097/224
Record set London, Docklands and East End Baptisms, 1558-1933
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Well he obviously didn't know much about his early life because the 1861 census gives his place of birth as Devon :-S


Name: Richard Saunders
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Saunders
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 325
Folio: 107
Page Number: 23

Richard Saunders 69 tanner
Elizabeth Saunders 66
Thomas Hopkins 12

Another one

Name: Elizabeth Lydia Saunders
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1827
Father's name: Richard Saunders
Mother's name: Elizabeth Saunders
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
41, Elim Street, Bermondsey, London, England

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Richard Sandow Head Married Male 69 1792 Joiner Devon, England
Elizabeth Sandow Wife Married Female 66 1795 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
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Thomas Hopkin Grandson - Male 12 1849 ... Bermondsey, Surrey, England



same address as 1851 census no 41

image looks like tanner not joiner

As posted above, Ancestry has the right name and right occupation in its transcription.

thank you still stuck with his birth could be southampton or devon and trying to find his marriage to elizabeth

Marriages Mar 1839 (>99%)
SAUNDERS Isabella Maria Bermondsey 4 7

Marriages Mar 1842
SAUNDERS Mary Ann Bermondsey 4 7