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My grandfather Patrick O'Donoghue is listed in the above census aged 23 years old living in Killarney Co Kerry Ireland. This may not be his place of birth. Next of kin lists his mother as Katherine O'Donoghue. Iam assuming his father is dead.
I have tried to find them on the 1901/11 irish census but had no luck, any suggestions about other web sites where i might try to find this information

His mother may not have been married..............

have you got your grandfather's marriage cert?

What about this one?

Residents of a house 13 in Coolaniddane (Rahalisk, Cork)

ODonoghue John 55 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Katie 45 Female Wife Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Dan 22 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Eliza 19 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Jeremiah 18 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Cornelius 16 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonoghue Patrick 12 Male Son Roman Catholic
Meany John 35 Male Visitor Roman Catholic

but I can't find them in the 1901

This the family in 1901 Potty


Residents of a house 13 in Coolaniddane (Rahalisk, Cork)


ODonohoe John 43 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Catherine 38 Female Wife Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Mary 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Elizabeth 12 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Daniel 8 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Jeremiah 7 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Cornelius 5 Male Son Roman Catholic
ODonohoe Patrick 3 Male Son Roman Catholic

Thank you for your replies, unfortunately i don't have his birth certificate as we're not sure of his exact date of birth and there are so many Patrick O'Donoghues around, on the census he's put his age as 23 so am assuming he was born c1899

Who did he marry? Have you found his marriage? The marriage cert should name his father and give his father's occupation. As there are so many with the same name, how sure are you that the one in the 1922 is the correct one?

Hi

'Macroom' is the registration for Rahalisk, Cork, so these look like the births for your family. There is another birth registration for Mary in 1889 so hers is a bit more difficult.


Name:Patrick O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1898

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:389

FHL Film Number:101067
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Name:Cornelius O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1895

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:395

FHL Film Number:101065
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Name:Jeremiah O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1893

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:406

FHL Film Number:101064
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Name:Daniel Donoghue

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1904

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:378

FHL Film Number:101070
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Name:Elizabeth O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1891

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:371

FHL Film Number:101063
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Name:Mary Donoghue

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1888

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:426

FHL Film Number:101062
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This looks like a possible marriage for the childrens parents but you would need to check Patrick's birth certificate for his mother maiden name



Name:John O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1887

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page Number:386

FHL Film Number:101255



Name (possible spouse)

Catherine O'Connor

There are some births for this couple which seem to follow family names



Name:Patrick O'Donoghue

Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1929

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page Number:257

FHL Film Number:101576


Name

Julia Twomey

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This seems to fit


Name:Julia Twomey

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1901

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:369

FHL Film Number:101068

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Name:Julia O'Donoghue

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1901

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1951

Death Age:50

Registration district:Macroom

Volume:5

Page:245

FHL Film Number:257854

Via a search at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
This is Gins' hit:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Rahalisk/Coolaniddane/1126343/

If you go to the Form N image (form A2 in 1911), you'll see the poor-law union of Macroom.
I know in England, the first rego districts followed the poor-law union boundaries.
I think (but don't know) that the same practice was followed in Ireland.

Evangeline

This could well be Patrick's family..1901.....check out same but ODonoghue 1911

Residents of a house 6 in Annagh Beg (Brewsterfield, Kerry)


Donoghue Patrick 19 Male Brother Roman Catholic Co Kerry Farm Labourer Read and write Irish and English Not Married -

Donoghue Timothy 27 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Kerry Farmer Read and write Irish and English Married -

Donoghue Norah 20 Female Sister Roman Catholic Co Kerry - Read and write Irish and English Not Married -

****Donoghue Patrick 3 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Kerry - ****
Donoghue John 1 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Kerry - Cannot read - Not Married -
Donoghue Catherine 22 Female Wife Roman Catholic

Patrick stated his address as Genflesk ...(Glen Flesk.)..you wont pick that upon the Census but it does show Glen..only 1 family living there...Glen/Glen Flesk is in the area of the above Census... You can also bring up Flesk plenty O'Donoghues but whole area is O'Donoghue territory going back since forever.

The family are still there 1911...put in Annagh Beg. Brewsterfield only you will know if the family eg brothers etc are you family.

Why don't you contact St Agatha's RC Church Glenflesk the PP may be able to help.

On Patricks army records, it states his D.O.B/Place as 25/07/1899 Macroom Co Cork. Next of kin is his mother Katherine living in Glenflesk Co Kerry, since my last post i have found out that Patrick was a bigamist. His first marriage was on June 7th 1919 to an Elizabeth McGabe and his bigamist marriage was to a Sarah Brennan on 12th May 1923 Dublin. On the first marriage certificate he lists his father as Timothy O'Donoghue farmer deceased, on his second marriage certificate he lists his father as Jeremiah O'Donoghue deceased. I have a copy of the court report and it is definitely the same man, I am trying to find a copy of Patricks birth certificate.

If these marriages show two different fathers, I should think that they are two different 'Patrick's'


Elizabeth McCabe
Marriage: Dec 1919 - Cork


Sarah Brennan
Jun 1923 - Dublin South


Do you know who his siblings were and where did Patrick die?

unfortunately i don't have any other information. The court records confirm it is the same man, it's possible he lied about his fathers real name for one of the marriages or maybe his father was Jeremiah Timothy or vise versa. I have copies of both marriage certificatesand his army records which confirm his date/place of birth and his mother Katherine as next of kin. Sorry i couldn't be of more help

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/ has parish records from Cork, Kerry, Dublin (& Carlow).