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I am back at last to my research. I now have a copy of Marie Sunderland's (1891-194) will where she lists 17 cousins! William Lomax , Dora Marion, Marjorie all Harrisons, Frances Alice Brown nee Sunderland, Harry Heaton & Fred Sunderland, Ethel Hargreaves nee Sunderland, Hilda Marcia Holt nee Sunderland, Nelly Foulds, Gertude Blakey, Edith Hargreaves, Alice Dewhurst,Susan Whitley, Polly Astin, Annie Taylor, George Clifford Carlisle. I found all the Sunderlands on the 1891 census children of Jas (Joseph) Pickles & Nancy Sunderland. They were in Great Little Marsden Burnley. I still have to check the other married ladies. Thomas (prop of the Albion Pub)& his son Thomas Lomax Harrison was on the 1881 Clifford census - Thomas Lomax is also on the 1911 census at Burnley . Clifford is a very small village pop 663 in 1881. You can see why I am looking for a connection to my mother Helen nee
PIke, who said Marie was her cousin. Marie was certainly my brother John Manod Davies,s godmother, he was a legatee in her will. all these people plus the Diggles and Pikes must have comprised most of the population of Clifford!

Anne ....................


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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1866
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HARRISON Lomax GREAVES Ann Rochdale, St Clements Rochdale CE16/2/156



Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)

HARRISON Lomas Walsh Burnley 8e 227
Walsh Elizabeth Harrison Burnley 8e 227

.OK sorry about the confusion - I have been doing genealogy for some years but under stress at the moment. . Have just discovered these letters, written to my mother Helen Mary Davies nee Pike 1940, by Marie Sunderland (very shaky handwriting she died later that year). Now I look again she says (amongst many other things!) "Uncle Lomax" her "mothers brother" came from Blackpool with his daughter Dora to visit. I had already found that Marie's father was married before and had a son James T b 1885 by his first wife Isabella Rogerson Sunderland who died in 1887. He remarried Louisa Emma Harrison they had Marie b 1891 and her brother Carl b 1894 1901 census. So sorry chaps! am retiring to bed with a wet towel round my head - will check my facts again tomorrow! It was the connection to Clifford that interested me.
Anne

found a death for lomax harrisons mother the baby could be his sister

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
Harrison Alice 1 Rochdale 8e 68
Harrison Alice 37 Rochdale 8e 33

I'm still confused by the statement that Lomax Harrison was a brother to Marie Sunderland. Did you mean Mary Ann Harrison who married James Edwin Sunderland?

Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)
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HARRISON Mary Ann Oldham 8d 724
Sunderland James Edwin Oldham 8d 724

Curiously Louisa Emma Harrison married John Sunderland the same year and he was the father of Marie born 1880.

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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Harrison Louisa Emma Wetherby 9a 191
SUNDERLAND John Wetherby 9a 191

Louisa's parents (for OUR benefit)


Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
Diggle Rebecca Tadcaster 9c 609
HARRISON Thomas Tadcaster 9c 609


Rebecca's sister who, incidentally, says in 1871 that she was born in Rochdale


Marriages Sep 1848 (>99%)
Diggle Emma Knaresboro 23 273
Whitehouse William Knaresbro' 23 273

Rebecca's parents were both born in Rochdale, according to 1851 census

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HARRISON Lomas Spotland Further Rochdale SF/16/335

Baptism: 12 Jan 1873 St Clement, Spotland, Lancashire, England
Lomas Harrison - [Child] of Robert Harrison & Alice
Abode: Catley Lane Head
Occupation: Coal Miner
Baptised by: W. S. MacKean
Register: Baptisms 1850 - 1894, Page 203, Entry 10
Source: LDS Family Search

That's what I was pondering, Jacqueline.

Anne, perhaps you should have explained in your opening post exactly what you were looking for.

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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rooley Moor Road, Spotland, Rochdale, Lancashire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Harrison Head Widower Male 38 1843 Coal Miner Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary A Harrison Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Throstle Spinner Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription
Lomax Harrison Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription
Betty Harrison Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription
Clara Harrison Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription
James Harrison Son Single Male 0 1881 - Rochdale, Lancashire, England Transcription

How could Lomax Harrison be Marie Sunderland's brother?

When asking for help, it saves a lot of wasted effort if you say precisely what you want, and also - especially - what you don't need

I am already aware of, and have, all the relevant census's etc.On the 1911 census I have I noted Walter Pike and have all the relevant details for him, his ancestors and descendants. I am still looking for a connection between a Lomax Harrison, brother to Marie Sunderland, and the Pikes or Diggle. Lomax is a name which has been passed down as a Christian through the Diggle and Pike family. One of my g.g Uncles used Geoffrey Lomax as his stage name, he was "left for dead" in the early 20th century in Johannesburg where I still have many relatives. Thank you for your help anyway.

Oh shoot!! You've gone and marked it as answered, I was still working on it.

Another mistranscription. The head is John Sunderland aged 32. The children must be his from a previous marriage, he and Louisa have only been married 3 years.

Louisa E Sunderland

in the 1891 England Census


Name: Louisa E Sunderland
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Clifford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Ilkley
Ecclesiastical parish: Ilkley
Town: Ilkley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wharefdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3528
Folio: 17
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Louisa E Sunderland 24
James Sunderland 7
Marie Sunderland 11
Martha Clifton 19

Mom's cousin Marie in 1911. The Walter Sunderland is actually Walter Pike, a visitor. Last name is Mary Catherine Smith, a servant. Wonder who did the transcription, it's very easy to read. Parents married 22 years, 3 children born, only 2 still living but 3 children are listed, the eldest being 26 so from a previous marriage?

Marie Sunderland

in the 1911 England Census
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Name: Marie Sunderland
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ockley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Skipton
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: Aireview House Skipton
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: Skipton
Registration District Number: 485
Sub-registration district: Skipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 25805
Household Members:
Name Age
John Sunderland 52
Louisa Enna Sunderland 44
James Thomson Sunderland 26
Marie Sunderland 20
Carl Sunderland 17
Walter Sunderland 43
Mary Cathrina Sunderland 24

Name: Ruth Pike
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Clifford cum Boston
Ecclesiastical parish: Boston Spa St Mary
Town: Boston Spa
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wetherby
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 119
Piece: 4295
Folio: 57
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Ruth Pike 34
Alfred E Pike 4
Walter James Pike 3
Ernest Brooke Pike 6 Months
Sarah Pike 20
Hannah Atkins 14


1881 Alfred E. Pike
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Ruth Pike
Gender: Male
Where born: Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England
Street address: 9 Brandon Ter
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Retired Commander Merchant Service
Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1911
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred E. Pike 51
Ruth Pike 45
Alfred E. Pike 14
Ernest B. Pike 10
John H. Pike 8
Robert D. Pike 6
Geoffrey L. Pike 4
Emma Whitehouse 59
Harriet Hunn

Just for reference, I assume this is the Pike/Diggle marriage?

ame: Alfred Edridge Pike
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1865
Marriage Place: Port Glasgow,Renfrew,Scotland
Spouse: Ruth Diggle
FHL Film Number: 6035516

Just found this site. Am interested in finding the relationships between the above surnames all resident in Clifford cum Boston during the 19th/20th century Lomax is known as a christian name but I suspect it might have been a surname once. Marie Sunderland daughter of Louisa Emma nee Harrison (and my late mother's cousin) spent her life in Skipton Yorkshire.
Any help would be appreciated. I already know of James Diggle whose sister married my g grandfather Alfred Edridge Pike.
Thank you,
Anne Hall