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william Powell b circa 1842
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Karen | Report | 6 Aug 2013 22:28 |
I have a January 7th, 1872 parish marriage record for a William Powell age 30, labourer son of William Powell labourer to Emma Lucas (my great grandmother) aged 19, no occupation father James Lucas bride abode Newton St. Loe, witnesses were Richard Lucas and Anna Vernier. This marriage is listed at St. Mary Saltford Somerset. Anyone have any ideas on how to get more info on William Powell? I tried the census for the area in 1871 but no luck...... |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 6 Aug 2013 22:33 |
Have you found him in 1881 ? |
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ErikaH | Report | 6 Aug 2013 23:36 |
Was William not your great grandfather? |
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ErikaH | Report | 6 Aug 2013 23:42 |
Is this EMMA? |
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Chris Ho :) | Report | 7 Aug 2013 06:52 |
Marriage (reference) |
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Chris Ho :) | Report | 7 Aug 2013 07:15 |
Emma Lucas married William Powell, a labourer aged 30, from Saltford Somerset, on 07/01/1872 at Saltford Parish Church, giving her age as 19, rather than her real age of 17, but her father is faithfully recorded as James Lucas, labourer. This economical use of the truth appears to be Emma's hallmark, and Saltford is only forty miles from Donhead, a far smaller distance than her subsequent travels to South Wales and Yorkshire. Although William Powell's father is recorded as William Powell, labourer, on the marriage certificate, I have had not been able to positively identify him in any census as the name is very common. |
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Karen | Report | 7 Aug 2013 15:41 |
Chris.. The above post is what set me looking for William Powell... It would seem my Great grandmother was an interesting lady! Reggie my grandfather was James Davies -Powell...I do have his birth cert. which is in the name of James Davies....after Thomas Davies died and my grandfather joined the reg. army he enlisted as James Powell and my grandparents marriage cert says James Davies Powell.....so far the only thing I have to go on to find Willaim Powell is this marriage record and based on it a birth date circa 1843....I do know that based on family photos of James and Bertha, they more than likely had the same father.....I can't find a single photo of Emma or any of the men she was with! We do know she married William but where he came from or went to is what I'm trying to find...Reggie you do have the correct Emma Lucas from the census I am still in the process of researching Emma's brother's and sister to see if any descendants can help me.... |
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Gee | Report | 7 Aug 2013 16:52 |
Hi Karen |
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Karen | Report | 7 Aug 2013 17:02 |
I will definitely look into her...I did give it a quick try but came up blank on the name...will see if she leads me anywhere...Thanks! |
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Gee | Report | 7 Aug 2013 17:36 |
Sorry Chris, I didnt see your earlier post this morning, re Anna (Hannah) |
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Chris Ho :) | Report | 7 Aug 2013 19:19 |
(lol, no worries Gins, didn't know if it would lead anywhere!) |
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Karen | Report | 12 Jul 2015 18:53 |
I am still working on this mystery......trying to figure out why the only place I can find a record of the marriage between William and Emma is on free reg.....nothing on free bmd or anywhere else.... |
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malyon | Report | 12 Jul 2015 19:43 |
this found on family search |
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malyon | Report | 12 Jul 2015 19:44 |
this is on familysearch |
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malyon | Report | 12 Jul 2015 19:51 |
this is on freebdm keynsham covers the saltford area |
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Karen | Report | 13 Jul 2015 12:26 |
Strange but I did recheck free bmd and now I see that the marriage shows up......Will check that census record and see if I can figure out what happened to him. In 1881 him and Emma were no longer together. Emma didn't legally remarry until 1894....so not sure if William died???? |
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Karen | Report | 13 Jul 2015 12:29 |
They had one Son, Thomas Henry...I have been in contact with his descendants and on his marriage cert. it states father was deceased and had been a sculptor.... |
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Chris Ho :) | Report | 13 Jul 2015 12:33 |
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6585197 |
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Karen | Report | 14 Jul 2015 14:02 |
unlikely.....on the parish record it states his occupation as a laborer, it also lists his fathers name as william.........I believe I will order the marriage cert and see if there is any other clues on it.. |
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Karen | Report | 14 Jul 2015 14:17 |
I have looked at the 1881 census again....Emma is listed as Emma Davies a coalminers wife.....I can't help but wonder if the census taker assumed she was married to Thomas Davies and did not ask her her married name.....if so where was William?....Emma's sister Jane (married to Stephen Sanger) lived not far from Emma in 1881. (Sorry don't have the census record in front of me...anyways it is possible the William and Emma moved to Wales close to Jane.....Emma did not have a legal marriage with Thomas Davies until 1894, even though she had 2 children with him, James And Bertha (I have both of their birth certs.).......Did William and Emma part company in Wales?...I realize life was very difficult for a single mother so remarrying quickly was the norm. So why wait until 1894 to marry the father of 2 of your children????? So wish I could go back in time and ask Emma! |