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Eringobragh1916
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23 May 2012 20:14 |
I would appreciate if someone could try and locate a Thomas Deery (Spelling varies) Born 1875 Wallsend Northumberland. I have him on 1881/1891/1901 but cannot find him 1911... I have all info re BMD and family but not this piece of the jigsaw.
Many thanks
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JustDinosaurJill
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23 May 2012 20:24 |
Perhaps?
1911 Census Household Record Household information Address 183 Hylton Road Sunderland Parish Sunderland Town Sunderland Type of Building Dwelling Number of Rooms 3 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN30159 RG78PN1740 RD555 SD1 ED16 SN17 Administrative County Durham Registration District Sunderland Registration Sub District Sunderland West Enumeration District 16 Householder 1 Name Thomas Deary Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 34 Estimated Year of Birth 1877 Occupation Shipyard Plate Riviter Employed Y Working at Home N Industry Shipbuilding Place of Birth Sunderland County Of Durham Householder 2 Name Mary Deary Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 4 Years Gender F Age 31 Estimated Year of Birth 1880 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Sunderland Durham
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Eringobragh1916
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23 May 2012 20:31 |
Thank you but that is not him....Dateand place of birth definately 1875 Wallsend.
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GlitterBaby
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23 May 2012 21:15 |
Have you found any of the brothers and sister that are on th 1901 in 1911
Think James is on 1911 as brother in law
Archibald is with his sister
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Catherine
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23 May 2012 22:11 |
This one is Wallesend????
1911 England Censusabout James Deary Name: James Deary Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Brother-in-law Gender: Male Birth Place: Wallsend, Northland Civil parish: Wallsend County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: 30 Park Road Wallsend On Tyne Marital Status: Single Occupation: Labourer (shipyard) (rygers) Registration district: Tynemouth Registration District Number: 559 Sub-registration district: Wallsend ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 30713 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Reay 46 Mary Reay 44 - Married 25yrs - 7 children (6 living and 1 died) Joseph Reay 15 Thomas Reay 7 Sarah Reay 12 James Deary 40
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Eringobragh1916
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23 May 2012 22:19 |
Thank You Catherine/Glitter Baby
Yes that is James and sister Mary's family 1911 George Owen Deery is living Wallsend Sarah Deery Kane is married living Wallsend Archie Deery is living Wallsend James is living with sister Mary (above) but cannot find Thomas anywhere...!!
Thomas (Deary) married Ellen Chambers in Watford in 1914
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GlitterBaby
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23 May 2012 22:39 |
Was Thomas in the Army?
Seems a long way from home for that marriage in 1914
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Catherine
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24 May 2012 18:30 |
There is this one that was in the army:-
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Thomas Deery
Name:Thomas Deery Regiment or Corps:Royal Engineers Regimental Number:277955 ..............................................................
Not the same as this one:-
Name:Thomas Deery Regiment or Corps:6th Kings Own Scottish Borderers Regimental Number:12772
............he was from Scotland and was killed in action.
Name: Thomas Deery Birth: Glasgow, Lanark Death: 25 Sep 1915 - France & Flanders Military: Glasgow, Lanark ..................................................................................................
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Eringobragh1916
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24 May 2012 18:59 |
Thank You Catherine... I had not considered the possibility that he may have enlisted pre 1911 Census..Glitter Baby (thank you) raised the question earlier... He had an uncle and cousin who went out to Canada (Via NY) April 1907 and I considered he may have gone with them and returned at some stage however I cannot find evidence of him doing that either...he is rather an enigma as he left a small fortune when he died (Wallsend 1929)
DEARY Thomas of Columba House 26 Laburnum Avenue Wallsend Northumberland died 22nd February 1929 Probate Newcastle upon Tyne 10 May to Ellen Gertrude
Effects £8228 15s 4d.
Equiv.in todays money of £365,497.00...
His brothers and sisters hadnt a penny to Bless themselves with...!!
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MarieCeleste
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24 May 2012 19:24 |
Do you have the newspaper article from 1903 about Thomas being assaulted in his shop? If not, let me know and I'll forward it to you.
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Eringobragh1916
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24 May 2012 20:00 |
MarieCeleste...
No dont have anything re Thomas..there apparently was some Shenanigans went on within the family and the "Shop" was the cause of it all according to family history...The saga went on well into the 1970s...!!
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Eringobragh1916
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24 May 2012 20:50 |
Thank You MC...Received News cutting...had fun reading all the news....! So she nearly felled him with a lump of cheese did she...mind that poses a another query...because the "shop" was a newsagents and never sold anything else...the mystery deepens.
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Catherine
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24 May 2012 22:53 |
The shop in 1911 was a General Shop so they probably did sell Cheese:-
GRIMES, Patrick Head M 53 1858 Grocer Dealer Ireland Co Tyrone Resident GRIMES, Marget Wife Married 22 years F 49 1862 Assistant Ireland Co Tyrone Resident GRIMES, Mary Ann Daughter Singel F 21 1890 England Northumberland Wallsend RG number: RG14 Piece: 30718 Reference: RG14PN30718 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED12 SN158 Registration District: Tynemouth Sub District: Wallsend Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Wallsend Address: 39 Glovers Row Wallsend County: Northumberland
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Catherine
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24 May 2012 22:59 |
Also:- in 1911 Laburnum Avenue, Wallsend was a Boarding House run by :-
STORAR, Joan Head Widow F 64 1847 Boarding House Keeper Edinburgh Resident
but no sign of Thomas :-(
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GlitterBaby
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17 Apr 2015 23:04 |
Nudge up
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2015 08:51 |
Wards 1915/1916 has the following entry:
129 Park Road, Wallsend - Deary, T. Newsagent
ADDED: So far, I can only find up to no 113 on the 1911 census summary books (although part of the street might have been enumerated separately)
I was looking for someone recently where I know 100% for sure that a family lived at the same address from the 1880s to the 1920s. They lived above a music shop in North Shields - there is no sign of that family on the 1911. Checking the summary books showed that the premises had been recorded as just a shop with no occupants so it looks as though due to human error the family weren't included in the census. How many more times has this happened and could Thomas Deary be one of them?
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2015 09:10 |
Of course, the properties numbered higher than 113 Park Road may have been built after 1911 .....
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Eringobragh1916
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18 Apr 2015 09:36 |
Morning MarieCeleste....How you doing ?
This fellow is driving me mad...!!
I am at a loss as to where to look next ...
Didn't know he'd lived on Park Rd.He'd obviously gone up in the world from living on Glovers Row and other than marrying "Nell" in Watford (1914) he doesn't appear to have strayed far from home.. The question remains where the devil was he in 1911...
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MarieCeleste
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18 Apr 2015 13:28 |
Might be worth looking in the Electoral Rolls for the known addresses .....
If you're not in the area I'll look next time I'm in North Shields library, if I recall correctly there was one in 1910.
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