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Could somebody please help put a family mystery to bed?

Do you know where I can find information on the County Court of Oxfordshire? I have the following info from the London Gazette and wondered if there is anywhere that I can find more information on the case?

London Gazette of Tuesday 28 April, 1857: This appears to be a summonsi s for Richard Jordan. It mentions that he was a publican and farmer and is from Old Stratford, previously Wordington and Bourton.

I have a lot of information about Richard in general but just need this piece.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes

Liz
Australia

Why the County Court of Oxfordshire?

Have you checked out the newspaper archives on this site

Sorry - the summons is to the County Court of Oxford.

Liz

Would the archives have the full court story? I would love to find something like the convict records at the Old Bailey - probably impossible.

Love your dogs GlitterBaby.

Liz

Are we dealing with a bankrupt/case?

Maureen

Would the archives have the full court story? I would love to find something like the convict records at the Old Bailey - probably impossible.

Love your dogs GlitterBaby.

Liz

Hi Maureen

Yes, I think it is.

Liz

Nothing obvious showing on this database on Ancestry

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892



Sadly only got the one dog on the left still with me

Thanks GlitterBaby - there has to be some info out there - will just keep looking. Perhaps he "got off".

Best wishes

Liz

I have the Quarter Sessions Rolls for 1687 to 1830, not much use to you, but maybe for someone else who looks on your thread, plus Calendars of Prisoners 1831-1835 at Oxford quarter sessions
Calendars of Prisoners 1840-1842 Oxford quarter sessions
Prisoner portraits Oxford Gaol 1870 to 1881
Calendars of Prisoners Oxford Quarter Sessions 1836-1839
Coroners notebook 1877-1905 Oxfordshire central district
Bullingdon Petty Sessions Bastardy Cases 1858-1884 two copies if someone needs one.

there is an mention in the London Gazette of 17th Jan 1857 in a list of insolvent petitioners 'publican - Richard Jordan, of Cambridge, agent for the sale of artificial manure'

1851 (relating to article January 1857)

JORDAN, Richard Head Married M 43 1808 Inn Keeper
Stratford
Essex
JORDAN, Elizabeth Wife Married F 42 1809
Bangalore
East Indies
JORDAN, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 20 1831
Stratford
Essex
JORDAN, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833
Stratford
Essex
JORDAN, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835
Stratford
Essex
JORDAN, William Son Unmarried M 14 1837
Cambridgeshire
JORDAN, Henry Son M 12 1839
Cambridgeshire
JORDAN, Emmah Daughter F 8 1843
Cambridgeshire
JORDAN, Amelia Daughter F 4 1847
Cambridgeshire
JORDAN, Fredric Son M 2 1849
Cambridgeshire
JORDAN, Alfred Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851
Cambridgeshiree
RICHARDSON, Mary Ann Servant Unmarried F 18 1833 House Servant
St Neots
Huntingdonshire
COCKVILE, Thomas Visitor Married M 39 1812 Frame Of Tolls
Priors Marston
Warwickshire

Piece:
1760 Folio:
817 Page:
1 Registration District:
Cambridge

Civil Parish:
Saint Clement Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Granly Inn, Bridge Street, Saint Clement, Cambridge County:
Cambridgeshire

(can only see same as Ann, Richard Jordan, Cambridge)

1861, the above Richard in Hackney, born Stratford, Essex, Omnibus Driver. 1841, in Cambridge, Coachman.

Chris :)

Edits, (can now see article on Gazettes Online, London, 28th April 1857, says he is out of business, late of Old Stratford, Northampton, Publican and Farmer, before then of Wordington and Great Bourton, both in County of Oxford)

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/

Might be more to be found in newspapers local to area he was living at time, Northamptonshire.


http://www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/en/councilservices/community/ro/pages/default.aspx

I am researching my 2gg Richard Jordan b. 1808 in Stratford, Essex. I am wondering if the Richard Jordan mentioned by Elizabeth is he or the one from Oxford. My 2gg was married to Elizabeth Vincent and he appears in the London Gazette Jan 16 1857. I would be grateful for any information anyone might have about Richard Jordan of Cambridge and his descendants. I have all the information listed by chris ho.

Welcome to the boards, Neil.

Just in my opinion - can't prove it - I think they are the same person.
According to a tree on Ancestry, the Richard in the 1851 census posted by Chris married Elizabeth Landay Vincent.

The Oxford one is a publican and farmer.
Yours was a publican and agent for sale of artificial manure - which would fit with being a farmer.

Yours was a coachman in Cambridge in 1841, an inn-keeper in Cambridge in 1851, and an omnibus driver in Hackney 1861.
That would fit with a history of an unsuccessful foray into inn-keeping, followed by a move away from Cambridge, and a return to his original occupation.

You say you would like info re Richard of Cambridge and descendants. What info do you already have, apart form that listed by Chris? It would save us duplicating research if we knew that.

From a little quick searching:
In 1871 he's still an omnibus driver in Hackney.

His son Frederick Vincent Jordan married Edith Roberts in 1879:

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
Jordan Frederick Vincent Hackney 1b 719
ROBERTS Edith Elizabeth Hackney 1b 719

In 1881 they're living with Edith's mother and siblings:

Edith E. Jordan
in the 1881 England Census

Name: Edith E. Jordan
[Edith E. Roberts]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship to Head: Daughter (Child)
Mother: Maria Roberts
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 22 High Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Clerks Wife
Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 807
Folio: 101
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Roberts 46
William J. Roberts 22
Edith E. Jordan 20 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizh. J. Roberts 18
Emily A. Roberts 16
Robert H. Roberts 13
Fredk. V. Jordan 21 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Julia E. Davis 26
Mary A. Williams 15
Joseph H. Warr 46



In 1891 Frederick's a pauper in Hackney Union Workhouse, and in 1901 he's in Hackney Union Infirmary - listed as married. Can't see Edith after 1881 so far.

this could be him mentioned in 1851 census


Richard Jordan
mentioned in the record of Henry Jordan
Name: Richard Jordan
Gender: Male
Wife: Elizabeth Jordan
Son: Henry Jordan
Other information in the record of Henry Jordan
from England Births and Christenings
Name: Henry Jordan
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 17 Feb 1839
Christening Place: St Andrew-the-Great, Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1839
Father's Name: Richard Jordan
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jordan


William Jordan
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Apr 1837
Christening Place: St Andrew-the-Great, Cambridge, Cambridge, England
Father's Name: Richard Jordan
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Jordan

No idea if related, but thought the name of the pub might be useful- just in case:

Northampton Mercury - Saturday 02 August 1856

Old Stratford, Northamptonshire.
FURNITURE, brewing vessels, ale casks....
to be sold by Auction by John Macquire.
On Tuesday next on August 5th, 1856, on the premises of Mr Richard Jordan, Falcon Inn, Old Stratford- (under execution from the sheriff)...

"The Falcon Inn stood at the north-west corner of the crossroads, where again a building existed in the early 17th century. (fn. 114) The owner c. 1630 was Christopher Reeve, who had been succeeded by a man named Gibson by 1635. (fn. 115) George Emmerson was the owner by 1653; either he or a namesake was still there in 1700. (fn. 116) Between 1702 and 1707 a quit rent due to the manor of Furtho was paid by Goody Hillier, who had been succeeded by 1711 by Margaret Hillier, who died in 1715. (fn. 117) John Hobbs was the owner by 1725; (fn. 118) after his death in 1736 the inn passed to his widow Judith, who died in 1751, when it was inherited by Edward Forfett, a London limner, whose brother John had married the Hobbses' daughter Phyllis. During this period a fire, in May 1742, destroyed three houses standing on tofts adjoining the inn. (fn. 119) John Furnice paid rates on the Falcon in 1739, presumably as tenant. (fn. 120) Forfett died in 1761, leaving the Falcon to his daughter Frances, the wife of Isaac Riviere, a London goldsmith, who sold the property (on which two new houses had been built to replace those burnt down) the following year to Christopher French and John Hall, also of London, for £60. (fn. 121) In 1773 French and Hall sold the premises to Matthew Willison of Old Stratford for £150. His family retained the Falcon until about 1820, (fn. 122) after which it belonged to Josiah Michael Smith. (fn. 123) The inn was later acquired by the Kendalls of Dovehouse Farm, Deanshanger, and was sold with the rest of their estate in 1877. (fn. 124) It closed shortly before the First World War (fn. 125) and by 1925 the buildings had been demolished to improve the road junction. (fn. 126)"

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/northants/vol5/pp198-207

No mention of Richard Jordan - presumably he just managed (or mismanaged?!) it for the Kendall family, or Josiah Smith.


No mention of him on this site either:
http://www.mkheritage.co.uk/os/doc/property/falcon.html

Maybe unrelated, but I wonder if this could be Richard's son William ??

The Northampton Mercury August 4th 1855

STONY STRATFORD PETTY SESSIONS: Thomas Stanton and W. Jordan, both of Old Stratford, were charged with illegally fishing in the Buckingham arm of the Grand Junction Canal. Stanton was discharged, and Jordan fined £1 and costs; allowed 14 days to pay.

After his court appearance in April 1857, Richard ended up in jail - see about halfway down the right-hand side of this page:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/21993/page/1527/data.pdf